Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

[sammwalk]

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

Sammwalk , Did I say shitting was disgusting.??

But it is disgusting. We just don't need to see it. On Facebook.

[Miroslav]

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

Hey, I'm all for breastfeeding, have no problem with it. But Facebook's status as a social networking product does not mean that it must follow democratic conventions. They've decided to follow a policy that closely conforms to social norms, which basically say that bare female breasts in public for whatever reason are generally something that is not supported. And no, I can't defend why it's ok for men to be topless at the beach but not for women. And maybe that should all change. But Facebook is not mandated to fight those battles. Breastfeeding in public is not illegal, but I really don't see women with babies whipping out tits in the food court when I go to the mall...not because they can't, but because they just don't feel comfortable with it. For that matter, I wouldn't feel comfortable going around the food court in the mall with no shirt on. That's the power that social norms have over us, for better or for worse.

[DIDI]

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Neither are disgusting. Just different functions, with very different results.

[feather]

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No nudity does not mean Facebook is anti-breasfeeding. So these women are choosing to interpret Facebook's no nudity policy as an affront to breastfeeding, which is entirely their personal take. Facebook is just being objective on a stand it made and is sticking to.

So it's really these aggro militant women's problem if they choose to read into, or look for excuses in which the world is anti-breastfeeding. If you go down that path, then they should go up in arms against Nestle and all the companies that produce milk powder for babies, cos they can just as easily interpret that as anti-breastfeeding.

[DIDI]

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Hey, I'm all for breastfeeding, have no problem with it. But just because Facebook is a social networking product does not mean that it must follow democratic conventions, that's all. They've decided to follow a strict convention that conforms to social norms, which say that bare female breasts in public for whatever reason are generally something that is not supported. And no, I don't know why men can go to the beach topless and women generally can't. And maybe that should change. All I'm saying is that Facebook is not mandated to battle those social norms. Breastfeeding in public is not illegal, but I really don't see women with babies whipping out tits in the food court when I go to the mall...because they just don't feel comfortable with it. For that matter, I wouldn't feel comfortable going around the food court in the mall with no shirt on. That's the power of social norm.

I'm surprised the attitudes in Australia are so much better. Firstly we can and do go to the beach topless if we want to. You will quite often see women breast feeding in food courts or sitting in the park. Babies can be quite difficult if they are not fed when they want. Bread feeding here is mostly looked at as a huge plus not just something you "don't have a problem with'".

Personally it is not something I would particularly want to do, but I fully support those who want to . I really don't care much about Face books attitude either ! I would not go on there doing anything.!! I was far more worried about what was said here.

[DIDI]

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No nudity does not mean Facebook is anti-breasfeeding. So these women are choosing to interpret Facebook's no nudity policy as an affront to breastfeeding, which is entirely their personal take. Facebook is just being objective on a stand it made and is sticking to.

So it's really these aggro militant women's problem if they choose to read into, or look for excuses in which the world is anti-breastfeeding. If you go down that path, then they should go up in arms against Nestle and all the companies that produce milk powder for babies, cos they can just as easily interpret that as anti-breastfeeding.

Actually what is their ruling no nipple, or no breast feeding ,or both. ???

Actually Someone on a local forum put up phptos that were on Facebook of a female flashing the boobs at a festival, that seems to be alright so perhaps it is just the breast feeding. So if you're flashing your tits at a music festival fine! If you want to put up pics of one of the best things you can do for your child, you are an aggro militant woman. ???

The argument about nestle is a bit disingenuous, a lot of women for one reason or another aren't able to breast feed and need those companies.

Btw My take is not that Facebook is anti breast feeding, it's just incredibly hypocritical.


Just reread Toasty's original post and I agree with a lot of it, and apparently it is just the nipple that is a problem.

[feather]

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Facebook bars people from uploading anything "obscene, pornographic or sexually explicit" — a policy that translates into a ban on pictures depicting certain amounts of exposed flesh.

Facebook doesn't enforce this all the time, they step in and remove pictures that are flagged by other users.

So some other people flagged those pics as obscene, and they were removed.

[Shiva]

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what do you mean produce? produce what???

shame on you shiva

ma bad

[srbbnd]

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They are using facebooks free service. It clearly states in the the terms and use that no nudity is allowed. Facebook usually allows anything as long as others don't flag it. This is ridiculous...

[Dhar_2]

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

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[Dhar_2]

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[simbalin]

Re: Facebook Breastfeeding Dispute

Great

[toasty]

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I feel compelled to point out that I have no problem with breastfeeding - my issue here is with a group needlessly dragging Facebook, a social networking site that has nothing to do with breastfeeding whatsoever, into a dispute it went out of its way to avoid. Not everyone should be required to stake out a position on this issue.

This does, however, bring me to a related point, and that is the enormous pressure put on women to breastfeed by these sorts of groups. For reasons I won't bore you with, breastfeeding is not an option for my wife. Yes, we realize it's the most nutritious way to feed your child. Yes, we realize that it builds a strong bond between mother and child. Yes, we realize there are all kinds of other benefits to breast feeding over bottle feeding. It's just not an option.

I've been stunned, though, at the reaction we get from some folks when they learn that we would deign to bottle feed our child. I thought our doula was going to kick us out of the class -- it was pretty uncomfortable. The irony is that our friends -- the people that know us -- know our situation and get it. Strangers, however, greet this news with either a look that conveys that they think that we're endangering the health of our child, or a look that lets us know how pathetic we are, often accompanied by admonitions that we MUST breastfeed. When did it become socially acceptable to browbeat someone you've just met for the unforgivable sin of using formula?

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[Steve Graham]

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I'm sure breast milk is only as healthy as the mothers diet.. correct?

[toasty]

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I'm sure breast milk is only as healthy as the mothers diet.. correct?

I think that's basically accurate, although in fairness to breastfeeders, I think the default would be that it's really healthy, unless the mother does something to mess that up. Also, because it comes directly from the mother that gave birth to the child, it's "fine-tuned," if you will, for that child. Formula, I think, paints with a broader brush.

No doubt about it, it is the easiest way to ensure your child is being properly nourished. Whether it is the best, though, depends upon your overall situation. I'll happily concede that it is a great way to go for a lot of people if those people would quit laying a mountain of guilt on my wife. The attitude we get from some people just seems so holier-than-thou at times...