obama vs. bush, pt II

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  • day_for_night
    Are you Kidding me??
    • Jun 2004
    • 4127

    #61
    Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

    Originally posted by MJDub
    We (military) say fuck you canadian
    please don't lump us in with him. he was dropped on his head as an infant, which has produced massive, unjustifiable narcisism combined with complete and utter obliviousness to reality. sad, really...

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    • runningman
      Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
      • Jun 2004
      • 5995

      #62
      Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

      more great stuff.

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      • Dzone
        Platinum Poster
        • Jul 2004
        • 1978

        #63
        Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

        Originally posted by Shpira


        I can't believe that anyone actually thinks this about any career politician.

        Realistically the best that you can hope for is that he will erase what Bush has done...we will see if I am right with the Health care reforms...actually we don't have to wait at all, in his election promise he said health care reforms so that every American can afford to go to hospital... now go to cnn.com and read what the actual reforms will be. The only way that health care reforms can be introduced is with some permanent changes...all he has done and plans on doing are temporary measures to help during the recession. Its all bullshit, same old same old...even if he wanted change he is one man against a system that is inherently inefficient and undemocratic. Too much money has been invested to make the US system the way it is for any single man to change it.
        100% agree, It's sad that mostly ppl outside the US can see the truth about the system there.
        ^^What dosen't Kill you make you stronger ^^

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        • Dzone
          Platinum Poster
          • Jul 2004
          • 1978

          #64
          Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

          Originally posted by Shpira
          if you want to know more read "hegemony or survival" by Noam chomsky its not big and its an easy read good introduction...a kind of an eye opener to US foreign policy if you will.

          Just finished reading "hegemony or survival" and it's one of the best books i picked in long time.....it's
          ^^What dosen't Kill you make you stronger ^^

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          • Shpira
            Angry Boy Child
            • Oct 2006
            • 4969

            #65
            Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

            Yeah its good. Have you read Manufacturing Consent or Necessary Illusions, also by Chomsky? Necessary Illusions spends a long time on the topic of Israel and the Arab/Israeli conflict so that mind be interesting to you...I think I remember you kinda being interested in that?

            Anyway glad you liked the book, Chomsky is very good at analyzing things I just don't like some of the stuff he proposes as potential solutions.
            The Idiots ARE Winning.


            "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
            Mark Twain

            SOBRIETY MIX

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            • Dzone
              Platinum Poster
              • Jul 2004
              • 1978

              #66
              Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

              Originally posted by Shpira
              Yeah its good. Have you read Manufacturing Consent or Necessary Illusions, also by Chomsky? Necessary Illusions spends a long time on the topic of Israel and the Arab/Israeli conflict so that mind be interesting to you...I think I remember you kinda being interested in that?

              Anyway glad you liked the book, Chomsky is very good at analyzing things I just don't like some of the stuff he proposes as potential solutions.
              No i did n ot read any of the above book for Chomsky, but i did read faild States and what we say goes, also saw couple of interviews for him, really admir the guy.

              I did read couple of books on Arab/Israeli conflict most of them for Mohamed Hasanin Hikal.
              But i kinda know the conflict inside out now, being living very close most of my life.

              I also know it will not be solve any time soon if it's ever to be solved !
              ^^What dosen't Kill you make you stronger ^^

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              • Shpira
                Angry Boy Child
                • Oct 2006
                • 4969

                #67
                Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

                Yeah I guess so...
                Anyway his work on the origin of languages is also really interesting. I can't remember the name of the book but I started reading it like 4 years ago...to be honest I was too young to get into that stuff back then. I wouldn't mind reading it now though...will have to look that up.
                The Idiots ARE Winning.


                "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
                Mark Twain

                SOBRIETY MIX

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                • runningman
                  Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 5995

                  #68
                  Re: obama vs. bush, pt II



                  chomsky

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