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  • ddr
    DUDERZ get a life!!!
    • Jun 2004
    • 7006

    #31
    Re: ny post cartoon

    Originally posted by Kamal
    nawwwww
    lol Kamal.

    I am just trying to make a point where picking and choosing a specific interpretation of a word is retarded. For all we know, monkeys were Gods a million years ago. For example, Hindu's thinks that cows are Godly. But here in America, calling someone a cow is an insult to their weight.
    "pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" James

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    • toasty
      Sir Toastiness
      • Jun 2004
      • 6585

      #32
      Re: ny post cartoon

      Originally posted by ddr
      If you want to go into history, humans came from apes, eg. monkeys. By calling someone a monkey, regardless of that person's race, that is just reinforcing our evolutionary past. Am I wrong?
      Is this really your position? You've always seemed like a pretty bright dude in the past, and I seriously can't even believe we're having this discussion.

      Originally posted by ddr
      Moreover, if President Obama was white, I still believe that this cartoon would have been released given the circumstances of Washington, the stimulus bill, and the shooting of the chimp earlier in the week.
      I agree because, again, I don't actually think the cartoon was intended to be racist, nor am I even certain the chimp was supposed to be Obama -- could have been Congress. That's a different debate, though, than whether you can call a black guy a chimp without expecting some backlash (hint: you cannot). The Post's non-apology did not help. They should have said something like this:

      Although the cartoon was in no way intended to have racial overtones, we understand, with the benefit of hindsight, how it could be interpreted in that fashion. To those who saw the cartoon in that light and were offended, we sincerely apologize.

      How hard is that? Admits no wrongdoing but validates the concerns of those that were offended.

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      • Kamal
        Administrator
        • May 2002
        • 28835

        #33
        Re: ny post cartoon

        Originally posted by ddr
        Hindu's thinks that cows are Godly.
        slap me a medium rare anytime bro.
        www.mjwebhosting.com

        Jib says:
        he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
        Originally posted by ace_dl
        Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
        I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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        • ddr
          DUDERZ get a life!!!
          • Jun 2004
          • 7006

          #34
          Re: ny post cartoon

          Originally posted by toasty
          Is this really your position? You've always seemed like a pretty bright dude in the past, and I seriously can't even believe we're having this discussion.



          I agree because, again, I don't actually think the cartoon was intended to be racist, nor am I even certain the chimp was supposed to be Obama -- could have been Congress. That's a different debate, though, than whether you can call a black guy a chimp without expecting some backlash (hint: you cannot). The Post's non-apology did not help. They should have said something like this:

          Although the cartoon was in no way intended to have racial overtones, we understand, with the benefit of hindsight, how it could be interpreted in that fashion. To those who saw the cartoon in that light and were offended, we sincerely apologize.

          How hard is that? Admits no wrongdoing but validates the concerns of those that were offended.
          No toasty, that is not my position, hehe. I was just trying to think of another way calling someone a monkey could be construed and that is all that I could think of at that time.

          I do not think that the cartoonist had any racial intentions with this cartoon and I find it being brought up, just utterly hilarious to say the least.

          Originally posted by Kamal
          slap me a medium rare anytime bro.
          ditto Kamal.
          "pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" James

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          • DIDI
            Aussie Pest
            • Nov 2004
            • 16844

            #35
            Re: ny post cartoon

            Originally posted by ddr
            If you want to go into history, humans came from apes, eg. monkeys. By calling someone a monkey, regardless of that person's race, that is just reinforcing our evolutionary past. Am I wrong?

            Moreover, if President Obama was white, I still believe that this cartoon would have been released given the circumstances of Washington, the stimulus bill, and the shooting of the chimp earlier in the week.
            Clutching at straws here The link that Floridaorange put up sums it up really well !!
            Originally posted by TheVrk
            it IS incredible isn't it??
            STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
            Simply does not get any better than Hernan
            The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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            • runningman
              Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
              • Jun 2004
              • 5995

              #36
              Re: ny post cartoon

              Originally posted by DIDI
              Clutching at straws here The link that Floridaorange put up sums it up really well !!
              It is Florida Orange... Jeez..

              Furthermore there should be a period after "here"

              Ouch two in the same quote!

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              • MJDub
                Are you Kidding me??
                • Jun 2004
                • 2765

                #37
                Re: ny post cartoon

                Originally posted by runningman
                It is Florida Orange... Jeez..

                Furthermore there should be a period after "here"

                Ouch two in the same quote!
                While we're at it, there should be a period after your quote of the word "here," but inside the quotation marks, exactly like that comma is.
                http://www.myspace.com/mjdubmusic

                You can't have manslaughter without laughter.

                "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."

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                • DIDI
                  Aussie Pest
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 16844

                  #38
                  Re: ny post cartoon

                  Originally posted by runningman
                  It is Florida Orange... Jeez..

                  Furthermore there should be a period after "here"

                  Ouch two in the same quote!
                  Hey! Don't pick on me, I don't correct spelling or grammar. I just laugh when others do !! As for the floridaorange , I believe it shows respect to use people's names they way they do.
                  Originally posted by TheVrk
                  it IS incredible isn't it??
                  STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
                  Simply does not get any better than Hernan
                  The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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                  • Localizer
                    Platinum Poster
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 2021

                    #39
                    Re: ny post cartoon

                    Originally posted by ddr
                    If you want to go into history, humans came from apes, eg. monkeys. By calling someone a monkey, regardless of that person's race, that is just reinforcing our evolutionary past. Am I wrong?

                    Moreover, if President Obama was white, I still believe that this cartoon would have been released given the circumstances of Washington, the stimulus bill, and the shooting of the chimp earlier in the week.
                    humans didn't come from apes or monkeys. They shared a common ancestor with them.

                    But I think you're missing the point. This country has had a history of racial tension. Saying you wear cotton isn't as bad as implying a black man is a monkey (again, because they were referred to as being inferior, just like apes way back when). Unfortunately, many black people are going to see it that way, and you really can't fault them for that. That's just the way life is.
                    Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
                    -Bertrand Russell

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                    • Kamal
                      Administrator
                      • May 2002
                      • 28835

                      #40
                      Re: ny post cartoon

                      Originally posted by Localizer
                      Unfortunately, many black people are going to see it that way, and you really can't fault them for that. That's just the way life is.
                      That's how I saw it..... and I'm brown!
                      www.mjwebhosting.com

                      Jib says:
                      he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
                      Originally posted by ace_dl
                      Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
                      I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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                      • MJDub
                        Are you Kidding me??
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2765

                        #41
                        Re: ny post cartoon

                        Originally posted by Kamal
                        That's how I saw it..... and I'm brown!
                        That's how I saw it..... and I'm white!
                        http://www.myspace.com/mjdubmusic

                        You can't have manslaughter without laughter.

                        "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."

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                        • toasty
                          Sir Toastiness
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 6585

                          #42
                          Re: ny post cartoon

                          Rupert Murdoch has apologized, for real:

                          As the Chairman of the New York Post, I am ultimately responsible for what is printed in its pages. The buck stops with me.
                          Last week, we made a mistake. We ran a cartoon that offended many people. Today I want to personally apologize to any reader who felt offended, and even insulted.


                          Over the past couple of days, I have spoken to a number of people and I now better understand the hurt this cartoon has caused. At the same time, I have had conversations with Post editors about the situation and I can assure you - without a doubt - that the only intent of that cartoon was to mock a badly written piece of legislation. It was not meant to be racist, but unfortunately, it was interpreted by many as such.


                          We all hold the readers of the New York Post in high regard and I promise you that we will seek to be more attuned to the sensitivities of our community.

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                          • Kamal
                            Administrator
                            • May 2002
                            • 28835

                            #43
                            Re: ny post cartoon

                            I read that on CNN as well and the one thing that caught my eye is this..... he says

                            "I can assure you -- without a doubt -- that the only intent of that cartoon was to mock a badly written piece of legislation.
                            but the writeup also says

                            The cartoon was published on Wednesday, a day after President Obama signed the stimulus bill.
                            Clearly, if it was meant to be what it was meant to be what he says it was mean to be, I guess they could have released the cartoon when the 750 Billion Bill was approved as opposed to when Obama signed the Bill.
                            www.mjwebhosting.com

                            Jib says:
                            he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
                            Originally posted by ace_dl
                            Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
                            I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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                            • Localizer
                              Platinum Poster
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 2021

                              #44
                              Re: ny post cartoon

                              Originally posted by Kamal
                              That's how I saw it..... and I'm brown!
                              Originally posted by MJDub
                              That's how I saw it..... and I'm white!
                              Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
                              -Bertrand Russell

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