How shit is this T/L???

**Miroslav** · March 31, 2009, 11:57:38 PM

Re: How shit is this T/L???

Originally posted by Shpira

What do you mean live? Please explain...he doesn't play an instrument? He doesn't make music live on a program...or does he?

Was kinda hoping to get a set from him that would display his dj capabilities to the max...every set I heard from him was so so...granted there haven't been many, but nothing really blew my mind...

Live / Live PA = dude basically plays / performs his own music through a computer and/or some other auxiliary sound-manipulating equipment.

DJ = dude plays / mixes other peoples' music, oftentimes not just through a computer.

I don't know that Gui Boratto has ever DJ'd in his life. I thought he generally just goes to shows and plays his own shit out of his laptop. That's what happened when I saw him at DEMF that year that Jenks mentioned... was ok for me, nothing too memorable. By that time, Gui's music had been so oversaturated that I knew exactly what to expect - even the order in which he would play the tunes. And he basically just stood behind his laptop and clicked away with a trackpad, or whatever.

Certainly nothing like the first time I saw Mathew Jonson down in Miami several years before that. That was spiritual.

**Haziel** · April 1, 2009, 12:06:47 AM

Re: How shit is this T/L???

Originally posted by Steve Graham

he produces, composes, plays numerous instruments, drums, guitar, keyboards, etc
.. oh, and he dj's once in a while too

but also does actual live shows

He also plays Football on the beach and drinks Capirinhas while at it .

**Erik Mitchell** · April 1, 2009, 12:30:51 PM

Re: How shit is this T/L???

Defo one of my fave producers out there. I can't say anything about his "live" show though... He's gonna be here in Denver next weekend but it looks like I have to miss it again!

**onique** · April 1, 2009, 12:59:43 PM

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sometimes you just got to plug your own shit...

**Shpira** · April 1, 2009, 01:28:44 PM

Re: How shit is this T/L???

Originally posted by Miroslav

Live / Live PA = dude basically plays / performs his own music through a computer and/or some other auxiliary sound-manipulating equipment.

DJ = dude plays / mixes other peoples' music, oftentimes not just through a computer.

I don't know that Gui Boratto has ever DJ'd in his life. I thought he generally just goes to shows and plays his own shit out of his laptop. That's what happened when I saw him at DEMF that year that Jenks mentioned... was ok for me, nothing too memorable. By that time, Gui's music had been so oversaturated that I knew exactly what to expect - even the order in which he would play the tunes. And he basically just stood behind his laptop and clicked away with a trackpad, or whatever.

Certainly nothing like the first time I saw Mathew Jonson down in Miami several years before that. That was spiritual.

Yeah Matthew Johnson is amazing...I am pretty sure I have a couple of sets by Gui Boratto though...that include other ppls songs. They are just not very good imo.
He is still one of my favorite producers out there along with guy j, dousk, pablo bolivar...etc

**jeffrey collins** · April 1, 2009, 02:00:18 PM

Re: How shit is this T/L???

Originally posted by Mariner1

basically like DeadMau5, but not a douche-bag.

exactly. But what he does should NOT be deemed as playing Live. Even considering he is using "Live" as his platform for his sets. He's a laptop performer.

**Mariner1** · April 1, 2009, 08:06:29 PM

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i just want to say for the record that I'm thoroughly enjoying his essential mix right now.

I've tried to simply listen to it and get a feel for his music. I'm about 40 minutes in at this point, and I felt inspired to write how good this set is, no matter how many tracks of his that he's using. Even if they are his own tracks, they're still pretty good. I was working on the assumption that he was part of the "let's see how much post-modern minimal-without-soul music we can play" crew, but I'm quite mistaken.

I probably would not go see him play live (though apparently he was recently in philly, and I should have gone because there is an absolute glut of ANY house dj's in this city), but as for background music, this is THE SHIT.

Ok, maybe i'd check him out live.

**Shpira** · April 1, 2009, 08:45:27 PM

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Dude no one here is doubting the mans production skills. The music he makes is pure gold IMHO...I was just complaining about his dj skills but as I have been informed by the above posts...he is not really a DJ.

**feather** · April 1, 2009, 08:54:05 PM

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Surprised you didn't know that already.

**Jenks** · April 1, 2009, 08:57:29 PM

Re: How shit is this T/L???

Originally posted by Shpira

Dude no one here is doubting the mans production skills. The music he makes is pure gold IMHO...I was just complaining about his dj skills but as I have been informed by the above posts...he is not really a DJ.

then there's the other argument: it only matters what comes out of the speakers and if people are dancing to it (which i don't agree with- the means to the end matter to me)

**Shpira** · April 1, 2009, 09:35:55 PM

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yeah but I think most of us don't go to a club to just "dance"...I like to think that some of us come to actually listen to the music being played and how the music is being played. Oh how I sometimes wish that I could return to the blissful days of just dancing...back when I thought dj's were magicians or priests or some divine shit like that. I thought they weaved their spells on the audience and made them all move as one to the tribal beat...then I discovered pills and knew why everyone moved like one LOL

anyways back on topic...I think there is more to it.Otherwise i would be buying the new Britney Spears or whatever those who just "dance" listen to...

p.s. maybe I come off a bit pretentious but i honestly don't understand the appeal in a lot of todays popular music...its like all of them are like "I got hoes and money" or like "I got dumped" or "I am doing the dumping cuz I am a slut"...whatever

**DIDI** · April 1, 2009, 10:05:42 PM

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^^^ Country and Western gone urban

**Mariner1** · April 1, 2009, 10:07:47 PM

Re: How shit is this T/L???

Originally posted by Shpira

Dude no one here is doubting the mans production skills. The music he makes is pure gold IMHO...I was just complaining about his dj skills but as I have been informed by the above posts...he is not really a DJ.

read the gd post m8. i was saying i was under the impression that his music sucked. Internal discord resolved through a good long listen of his e-mix.

Consider this: DJ stands for DISC-JOCKEY. That requires a DISC. ANything short of a disc-like object and you're not a dj. you're something else. Laptop Jockey, Live PA. whatever. Not a DJ.

amirite

**feather** · April 1, 2009, 10:50:13 PM

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Originally posted by Shpira

yeah but I think most of us don't go to a club to just "dance"...I like to think that some of us come to actually listen to the music being played and how the music is being played.

Sure which is why I started that thread about laptop mixing

But in this instance, it's just a simple mixup, you thought he was a DJ when he clearly wasn't one. Not a big deal.

**jeffrey collins** · April 2, 2009, 12:34:36 AM

Re: How shit is this T/L???

Originally posted by Jenks

then there's the other argument: it only matters what comes out of the speakers and if people are dancing to it (which i don't agree with- the means to the end matter to me)

bro I doubt you would have ever said that when people could only spin vinyl or cd's.

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