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  • Corven
    Are you Kidding me??
    • Jun 2004
    • 4080

    #31
    Re: Next Gen iPhone

    if i'm not mistaken it was licensing issues that prevented Flash from being included before but i guess that have been fixed
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    • feather
      Shanghai ooompa loompa
      • Jul 2004
      • 20895

      #32
      Re: Next Gen iPhone

      What I read was Adobe made a Flash player lite for the iPhone and Steve decided it wasn't up to scratch, and they're back to the drawing board to create something between a proper Flash player and the lite version.

      There you go
      Apple CEO Steve Jobs went on record to warn that the iPhone needs a Flash Player that works like it does on a computer, warning that the Flash Lite Player that Adobe Systems Inc. develops for mobile phones isn't sufficiently advanced for an iPhone.
      "Proper" Flash "performs too slow to be useful" on the iPhone, Jobs warned. "There's this missing product in the middle. It just doesn't exist."

      i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

      Originally posted by Hoff
      a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
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      Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

      I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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      • Homskillet
        Platinum Poster
        • Jun 2004
        • 1289

        #33
        Re: Next Gen iPhone

        I know apple isn't too big on flash as well because of the possibility that flash gives the developers to create apps in flash.

        Basically, people can create games and other apps in flash, which could completely bypass the App Store, since flash is web based.
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        • feather
          Shanghai ooompa loompa
          • Jul 2004
          • 20895

          #34
          Re: Next Gen iPhone

          A possibility but I don't think it's a real threat to the app store considering the kinda limitations given the processing power and Flash. For anything fancy (and that includes a nice UI, smooth animation, etc), you would want to develope FOR the iPhone as opposed to developing for Flash on the iPhone because Flash is an additional layer between the user and the hardware that you don't need if you want optimal performance. But who knows!

          i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

          Originally posted by Hoff
          a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
          Originally posted by m1sT3rL
          Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

          I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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          • Kamal
            Administrator
            • May 2002
            • 28835

            #35
            Re: Next Gen iPhone

            all I want is that snap on key board and life will be complete.
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            Jib says:
            he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
            Originally posted by ace_dl
            Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
            I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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            • Homskillet
              Platinum Poster
              • Jun 2004
              • 1289

              #36
              Re: Next Gen iPhone

              Originally posted by feather
              A possibility but I don't think it's a real threat to the app store considering the kinda limitations given the processing power and Flash. For anything fancy (and that includes a nice UI, smooth animation, etc), you would want to develope FOR the iPhone as opposed to developing for Flash on the iPhone because Flash is an additional layer between the user and the hardware that you don't need if you want optimal performance. But who knows!
              http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/1...-flash-on.html
              https://soundcloud.com/dahlheim/shadynasty-tres-final

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              • feather
                Shanghai ooompa loompa
                • Jul 2004
                • 20895

                #37
                Re: Next Gen iPhone

                I kinda doubt the veracity of that article because it's written based on Apple's TOS and conjecture by the author and other sources, but with no input from Apple at all.

                If you developed a Flash application that runs in a browser on the iPhone, I am thinking it will be sandboxed and the application cannot hook into whatever the iPhone has, so you can't be developing stuff that might make use of its address book, its camera, or its built-in GPS. You're basically creating superficial games because there's no way Apple would let some Flash app into the iPhone's innards, that's opening a big can of worms.

                And I'm thinking your Flash UI and animation and stuff will always be severly limited because you're programming for something that exists as a layer, you won't have access to all the hardware graphics acceleration and stuff unless you actually develop an app that works on the iPhone.

                Plus the drain on battery life. Anyway that's just my understanding which is probably flawed and limited

                i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

                Originally posted by Hoff
                a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
                Originally posted by m1sT3rL
                Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

                I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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                • Homskillet
                  Platinum Poster
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1289

                  #38
                  Re: Next Gen iPhone

                  Originally posted by feather
                  I kinda doubt the veracity of that article because it's written based on Apple's TOS and conjecture by the author and other sources, but with no input from Apple at all.

                  If you developed a Flash application that runs in a browser on the iPhone, I am thinking it will be sandboxed and the application cannot hook into whatever the iPhone has, so you can't be developing stuff that might make use of its address book, its camera, or its built-in GPS. You're basically creating superficial games because there's no way Apple would let some Flash app into the iPhone's innards, that's opening a big can of worms.

                  And I'm thinking your Flash UI and animation and stuff will always be severly limited because you're programming for something that exists as a layer, you won't have access to all the hardware graphics acceleration and stuff unless you actually develop an app that works on the iPhone.

                  Plus the drain on battery life. Anyway that's just my understanding which is probably flawed and limited
                  I agree with you when you mention that Apple isn't going to allow flash to access the "innards" of the phone.

                  My main thing is that I think apple may feel a little threatened by it because it can take a little of their profit away.

                  Look at that app that's similar to Bejeweled... the guy has sold I believe over a million of that game over the app store and I know that, that game doesn't take much processing power, which could be a prime candidate for a flash app.

                  All of the possible "little" flash apps that could possibly take some of the market share would add up and that is something apple really doesn't want.

                  Anyhow, who cares, just get flash on the damn phone!
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                  • dusk
                    DUDERZ get a life!!!
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 7266

                    #39
                    Re: Next Gen iPhone

                    Originally posted by Homskillet

                    Basically, people can create games and other apps in flash, which could completely bypass the App Store, since flash is web based.
                    You mean that people are not currently bypassing the App store

                    Flash or not, the store can be bypassed by those who want to.. flash will be rather groovy and welcome addition; they should certainly consider it.
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                    • Kamal
                      Administrator
                      • May 2002
                      • 28835

                      #40
                      Re: Next Gen iPhone

                      just ran into this

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                      Jib says:
                      he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
                      Originally posted by ace_dl
                      Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
                      I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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                      • dusk
                        DUDERZ get a life!!!
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 7266

                        #41
                        Re: Next Gen iPhone

                        It will support more sophisticated games.


                        This I am interested in seeing happen. Cannot imagine it being a real competitor in the handheld gamers market
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                        • Homskillet
                          Platinum Poster
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1289

                          #42
                          Re: Next Gen iPhone

                          Originally posted by dusk
                          You mean that people are not currently bypassing the App store

                          Flash or not, the store can be bypassed by those who want to.. flash will be rather groovy and welcome addition; they should certainly consider it.
                          Don't get me wrong, I for one, would LOVE to see flash integrated into the phone. Being a web designer for over 8 years, know the possibilities of flash, and also could care less if people go through the app store or not. I "PWNED" my iphone about one week after I bought it and will still buy an occasional app because I feel the developers should be compensated for their hard work.

                          I was basically just stating what I had read before to help people understand possibly why they haven't allowed flash to run on the phone yet.

                          On a different note, damn, I'm going to be tempted to buy this new iphone especially if there's really a significant hardware upgrade!!
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                          • clintlove
                            Hey girl, ya Hungry?
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 3264

                            #43
                            Re: Next Gen iPhone

                            Originally posted by Kamal
                            If a man can cream in his panties, I just did. So ready to upgrade from my 1st gen.

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                            • dusk
                              DUDERZ get a life!!!
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 7266

                              #44
                              Re: Next Gen iPhone

                              Originally posted by Homskillet
                              I was basically just stating what I had read before to help people understand possibly why they haven't allowed flash to run on the phone yet.
                              I hear you man.

                              Plus with the hardware upgrade, peeps will be lined up to grab this baby, flash or no flash!
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