Final Fantasy XIII

[demonAfro]

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The alpha-to-coverage hair makes me cry. If it weren't for that I quite possibly would have bought a console to play this game.*


* should probably stop reading the reviews focused on the negative graphical issues

[itsjung]

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i dont know why ppl are bitching about how the new FF game sucks including the critics. its the dopest shit ever. ive never played a game this dope before, and i've played almost every final fantasy series starting from FF1 on the original NES.

[Alpinevpr]

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im disapointed mates, the graphic are fucking totally awesome, but the way of play it its very different, you go in a straight line you cant go whereever you want to go there arent minigames nothing, man i want some card game as Final VIII but well, the game is ok but hope they make a greater final vs xiii than this one....

It is quite linear which sucks I agree, but at least when you get to a certain point it becomes pretty non linear. It's a great game, but I like the FF1-3 (US versions) better. As you said, the graphics are amazing, but I really like from previous games that I can choose in more detail what each person in my party does, (IE heal this person this turn) type of thing.

All in all, I am glad I bought it and it's a really good story.

[TomTom]

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FF13 is next on my list after I am done with the Addon "Awakening" for Dragon Age. I heard that it is much more linear than previous episodes and it barely has any side quests but I am sure I will squeeze 100 hours of Fun out of it so I don't mind.

[Digger]

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im thinking on buying demons soul or heavy rain....lets see if they dont fuck up ff versus vxiii

[Corven]

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heard Demon's Soul is quite good for a RPG .... Heavy Rain is sitting with my pile of couple of other games which i haven't had time to get round to because i'm stuck grinding for CP in FFXIII

[seldonbilly]

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FFXIII has the best story and visuals and presentation of every final fantasy game yet, maybe the best battle system too.

the only reason why some fans dont like it is because they removed some of the traditional final fantasy elements like, mini games, towns to explore and big worlds to explore (wich it still has but not much)

but thats no problem if its for a better story and better visuals...

[Alpinevpr]

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FF13 is next on my list after I am done with the Addon "Awakening" for Dragon Age. I heard that it is much more linear than previous episodes and it barely has any side quests but I am sure I will squeeze 100 hours of Fun out of it so I don't mind.

Tomtom if you are one of those people who wants to make sure you can beat every monster or boss in a game easily, you will have no problem spending 100 hours on the game. Also, if you like to "tinker" with things the upgrade system is very indepth.

[TomTom]

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I have played 20 hours with it and so far, there was not one decision to make which path to choose lol. Tube levels where you go straight from point A to B on a one way road without anything to explore and so far no cities, no NPC's and zero side quests. Also neverending Changes of the Characters you control...feels like beeing taken on the hand like a 5 year old and that's what I do not like about the Game so far.

Besides this, the Game rocks my socks I must say. The presentation and storytelling is together with Metal Gear Solid 4 and Uncharted 2 the best I have seen so far in any Computer/Console Game and the intense way the Story is told takes care that you know the Characters you are playing with and it connects you emotionally which is something I always appreciate.

The Game also calls the Uber-Nerd in me. Since I have understood the Tactics system and the different roles each character can have (and change) during Battles and also thanks to analyzing enemies, it's hell of Fun for me. Finding out the best Tactics and trying to defeat the enemies the fastest and most efficient way possible rocks.

So far I did not look into any guidelines because I hate spoilers and most of the time when I look up something specific I find out things I do not want to find out lol. So maybe my actual questions can be answered from people who play it since some time already:

I was surprised the Game uses real time action instead of round based moves and I was wondering what the Menu option does where you can determine whether the ATB bar fills up normally or slow. Normal is default but what is Slow good for? I hoped it would slow the Battles down a bit because especially in the beginning, before I was able to figure out what each Spell does I was dead lol. But switching this setting to "Slow" made it even harder. The bar took (oh really lol) longer to fill but the enemies moved with the same speed as far as I can tell. So where is the point of this or was my observation wrong and you do have more time to consider your next strike in slow mode?

Another question for people who like some Grinding. I am still not sure how the Level system is working. I have played some of the areas several times again because I wanted to upgrade the Characters I was playing with. Right now I have one char that could need some more EXP because she has joined latest but all other characters have all roles upgraded to max with all options taken - but they have still > 10.000 EXP left for Upgrades. Did I already grind too much (so far maybe 4 hours invested) or will the Game open at some stage where you will need each point you can get ahold of? The last FF episodes I played were 7 and 8 on the PC so I am out of the Loop a bit lol. I only remember that in these Games you could spend ridiculous amounts of time to level your chars up and I loved it.

Last question: The Upgrades. So far I understood that I have to invest a few cheaper parts in the beginning to boost up the modificator and to obtain more points from the more expensive Items. But are there specific upgrade items that give you more points when used with a certain type of Weapon or Ring? If so, is there any way to find out besides trying out or checking the Upgrade Wiki which surely already exists lol? Will there be some more hints in the Game or does it just not matter?

[Corven]

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I have played 20 hours with it and so far, there was not one decision to make which path to choose lol. Tube levels where you go straight from point A to B on a one way road without anything to explore and so far no cities, no NPC's and zero side quests. Also neverending Changes of the Characters you control...feels like beeing taken on the hand like a 5 year old and that's what I do not like about the Game so far.

side quests only comes in late in the game at Chapter 11 where the story takes you to Pulse and the world is more open.

Another question for people who like some Grinding. I am still not sure how the Level system is working. I have played some of the areas several times again because I wanted to upgrade the Characters I was playing with. Right now I have one char that could need some more EXP because she has joined latest but all other characters have all roles upgraded to max with all options taken - but they have still > 10.000 EXP left for Upgrades. Did I already grind too much (so far maybe 4 hours invested) or will the Game open at some stage where you will need each point you can get ahold of? The last FF episodes I played were 7 and 8 on the PC so I am out of the Loop a bit lol. I only remember that in these Games you could spend ridiculous amounts of time to level your chars up and I loved it.

Character grinding is not so much of importance imo as all characters gain the same amount of CP even when they are not used in battles. You'll probably earn more than enough when you grind for components for upgrades in which leads to your next question.

Last question: The Upgrades. So far I understood that I have to invest a few cheaper parts in the beginning to boost up the modificator and to obtain more points from the more expensive Items. But are there specific upgrade items that give you more points when used with a certain type of Weapon or Ring? If so, is there any way to find out besides trying out or checking the Upgrade Wiki which surely already exists lol? Will there be some more hints in the Game or does it just not matter?

There are lists out online where how much EXP boost each item give. and most cheap items boosts up the modificator however there are some items which decreases it as well when used but usually those are items which gives high EXP. I did realise that the same component used however varies on how much EXP given for upgrades on different characters and their different items.

As much as money/Gil are useless in 95% of the game, you actually do need it to purchase components for weapon upgrades later. Tip: without giving away too much there's only one chapter in the game where its best to grind for Incentive Chips which sells for 2500Gil and Perfect Conductors which gives a 3-4k EXP with a 3x modificator.

[Digger]

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Use 36 Sturdy Bones, Barbed Tails or Vibrant Oozes (or 24
Otherworldly Bones, Diabolic Tails or Transparent Oozes) to get an
instant x3 EXP Bonus.

Follow it with the right quantity of Ultracompact Reactors, Particle
Accelerators or one of the other recommended components to bring
the piece of equipment directly to maximum level (* ).

Where applicable, use the transformational catalyst required to
transform the item into its superior version, then return to step 2.


EXP: BEST COMPONENTS
~ COMPONENT AVERAGE EXP Buy PRICE
Ultracompact Reactor 40,000 50.000
Su ercharger 774 1,600
Particle Accelerator 4.800 10.000
Turboprop 768 1.600
Superconductor 400 840
Perfect Conductor 751 1.600
Chobham Armor 460 1.000
Bomb Core 551 1.200
Tesla Turbine 823 1.800



MULTIPLIER: BEST SHOP COMPONENTS
COMPONENT MULTI PLIER EFFECT Buy PriCE
Sturdy Bone +14 80
Barbed Tail +14 80
Vibrant Ooze +14 80
Otherworldly Bone +2l 150
Diabolic Tail +2l 150
Transparent Ooze +2l 150


hope that helps you im at chapter 9 on some kinda ship

[TomTom]

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Thanks Corven and Digger..this should help.

[TomTom]

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Another question...right now I am in chapter 11 (guess it's pretty much the end of it) and I could depart with a space ship and return to Cocoon. I have over 20 of missions left because the enemies are much too hard for my party lol. Can I return to the maps from Chapter 11 anytime or at least at a later stage or would I have to grind for EXP and ingridients for days to boost my party up to complete all missions before I leave?

[Digger]

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im there also, im at stage 8 and lv 4 on all my characters plus lv 60 on hopes weapon on second stage of hawk boomebarng and second stage of the axis blade some weird names i can recall it rite now but you can come back til chapter 13 i have read on my guide but i like to put all my characters strong enought on here and look for some golden nuggets with the chobocobos

[TomTom]

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Good to know and it sounds reasonable because I doubt you can make them all at this stage. I have levelled my gang up to Level 4 on all main paths and most have all other Paths on Level 2 maxed out too. Crystal power (or however it is called in english lol) is Level 9 already and all have weapons maxed out in Level 2 and I need one of those items to upgrade them that cost 2 million credits so these are no go for now lol. But all in all, I think my group has pretty much everything they can have at this stage thanks to my Nerdness and epic grinding motivation.

But right now, I am stuck with mission #51. The Fal'Cie or whatever kind of Cie this is is soooo hard. I can fight 5-7 minutes and his hitpoints go down not even a third and then he casts a Spell and all die (having between 10 and 11.000 hitpoints).Still no clue what this guy does but I think I need more HP and maybe a different spell/equipment for him. God the missions between 40 and 50 are so rough...they are making me freak out haha. The three Tonberys and the Neokiss nearly made me throw the pad into the TV.