Being Poor

[Kamal]

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I think this video well depicts how reality is affected by the observer.

[YOUTUBE]DfPeprQ7oGc[/YOUTUBE]

[floridaorange]

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Kaltich is in no way suggesting that wrapping your mind around this is easy, but we are all our own masters of our own reality whether your poor, rich, come from wealth, come from poverty. The path may be much longer for some rather than others to change their reality to what they desire, and it will take an enormous amount of work and reprogramming, but I agree that it is possible for any and everyone. The only time someone is 100% powerless is I guess if they are in a tribe in some remote village on some remote island. Again, not saying everyone has the desire to elevate themselves, but it is possible if the desire is there. Does that mean poor people are guilty, or second class for not contributing more to society, no it does not. Lastly, even having this conversation 50 years ago probably wouldn't be possible, but today, it is.

I think this video well depicts how reality is affected by the observer.

[YOUTUBE]DfPeprQ7oGc[/YOUTUBE]

Oh wow, that is pretty awesome Kamal, can you round up some more of these that are similarly related? You seem to have a pretty good handle on this stuff.

[Kat]

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or watch the whole movie http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/wha...do_we_know.php
there are 2 versions: this one, and the extended version with scientific explanations What the bleep- down the rabbit hole
enjoy

[DIDI]

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. Does that mean poor people are guilty, or second class for not contributing more to society, no it does not.

If there was ever a question that neither needed to be asked or answered, this is it. !!

The path may be much longer for some rather than others to change their reality to what they desire, and it will take an enormous amount of work and reprogramming,

So of course if this doesn't work it means people didn't work hard enough or didn't have sufficient desire . The last word in that sentence says it all really !!

Now it would be nice if we got back to the realities of what is actually happening to people and looked at real ways of helping to make things better .
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[Kat]

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wow it amazes me how quickly people decide not to give it a chance to learn and settle for what they know sucks but sounds familiar enough to be comfortable with
so why bother to whine about how shitty your situation is if youre not willing to do anything about it??
and of course you know it doesnt work because you just found out about it 2 seconds ago - well done!
so how come i managed to retire at my age and have whatever i wish for just because i followed the knowledge??
instead we should believe you have the real formula how to make things better and your proof is a shitty job, recession, hunger... no thank you!!!
well at the end its your choice and remember you mad it and no government prevented you to learn or stopped you to at least watch a movie
jeezzz

[Kat]

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and yes you need to have a desire to overcome the fear to step out of your comfort zone and face the unknown!!
remember its never crowded on the extra mile and we can see why!

[Miroslav]

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being poor (now please dont jump on me here) is a choice
it doesnt mean its not sad that half of the world is starving literaly but there are possibilities for every single one person alive to have anything they want
how? well its a "quantum world" and if you understand it you can make it what you want and i can tell this from my own experience!!. i used to be poor (kinda) and learned how to think to live the way i want (almost)
since i am fortunate enough to know this i wanted to put my money to good use so i have adopted 4 kids in africa so far, paying for their education, health care and food
theres so many great things in this world and economy/capitalism is not one of them!!

I'm glad it worked out for you, but I really don't agree with what you say. To be honest, I think it is pretty callous and condescending to infer that all people who starve do so because of their own poor choices or laziness and that they should just "pull themselves out of it".

Yes, I agree that getting somewhere in life virtually always comes down to personal initiative, determination, and hard work. But circumstances of life also play a huge role. I may be wrong, but I'm going to guess that you at least lived in environments where there was some functional civilization - you likely wore shoes, you had running water, you probably ate food every day, had access to some basic sanitation, probably at least a basically functional school system, and probably didn't deal with warfare in the streets. It's always much easier when you're in that environment to get very philosophical about the power of willpower and DNA, etc.

While you were doing that, some kid somewhere across the world was growing up in an environment that had none of that - no running water, no basic sanitation, probably no school system at all - hell, probably no real economy or currency, even - and quite possibly brutal violence and disease to top it all off.

Now some people in that environment will "make it" through determination and hard work, but there will be many determined, hard-working people who won't because the environmental circumstances will stop them. They will die of dysentery. They will be raped and beaten to death in violent ethnic bloodshed. They will die of hunger before they even reach puberty because there simply is nothing anywhere to eat. How do you propose that those people just positively think their way into the riches that you enjoy?

Sure, it's a cop-out to use one's circumstances to just be lazy and give up; one should always strive for something better. But life is unfortunately not fair, and oftentimes your circumstances can play a greater role in your living standard than you might even recognize. You've probably benefitted greatly from the economy/capitalism thing and you probably still do. Don't forget that we take a lot for granted in our nice countries; even many of the poor there live like kings compared to other places in this world.

[Kat]

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I'm glad it worked out for you, but I really don't agree with what you say. To be honest, I think it is pretty callous and condescending to infer that all people who starve do so because of their own poor choices or laziness and that they should just "pull themselves out of it".

Yes, I agree that getting somewhere in life virtually always comes down to personal initiative, determination, and hard work. But circumstances of life also play a huge role. I may be wrong, but I'm going to guess that you at least lived in environments where there was some functional civilization - you likely wore shoes, you had running water, you probably ate food every day, had access to some basic sanitation, probably at least a basically functional school system, and probably didn't deal with warfare in the streets. It's always much easier in that environment to get very philosophical about the power of willpower and DNA, etc.

While you were doing that, some kid somewhere across the world was growing up in an environment that had none of that - no running water, no basic sanitation, probably no school system at all - hell, probably no real economy or currency, even - and quite possibly brutal violence and disease to top it all off.

Now some people in that environment will "make it" through determination and hard work, but there will be many determined, hard-working people who won't because the environmental circumstances will stop them. They will die of dysentery. They will be raped and beaten to death in violent ethnic bloodshed. They will die of hunger before they even reach puberty because there simply is nothing anywhere to eat. How do you propose that those people just positively think their way into the riches that you enjoy?

Sure, it's a cop-out to use one's circumstances to just be lazy and give up; one should always strive for something better. But life is unfortunately not fair, and oftentimes your circumstances can play a greater role in your living standard than you might even recognize. Don't forget that we take a lot for granted in our nice countries; even many of the poor there live like kings compared to other places in this world.

i hear your point but i never said someone is to lazy to work hard or anything like that, its the knowing of how laws of reality work and use them wisely. its true the knowledge cant reach some parts of the world as easily but physical laws work for every single one human being with no exceptions!
because of these physical laws, life is extremely fair because it responds to your thoughts and feelings and manifests in its physical form as you think it - its news and its big news.
my goal is to educate as many people as i can, especially in distant parts of the world!

[Miroslav]

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i hear your point but i never said someone is to lazy to work hard or anything like that, its the knowing of how laws of reality work and use them wisely. its true the knowledge cant reach some parts of the world as easily but physical laws work for every single one human being with no exceptions!
because of these physical laws, life is extremely fair because it responds to your thoughts and feelings and manifests in its physical form as you think it - its news and its big news.
my goal is to educate as many people as i can, especially in distant parts of the world!

So you seriously believe that with the knowledge of how to apply these physical laws any small child in Africa could just pull themselves out of their situation of famine, war, etc. and basically have the kind of well-to-do life that you enjoy?

Just curious... Where did you grow up, and what do you do for a living?

[Kat]

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So you really think that a small child in Africa can just be taught to harness these physical laws and basically "think" and "feel" his/her way out of starvation, disease, and warfare and come to enjoy the kind of life that you lead?

Just curious... Where did you grow up, and what do you do for a living?

no i dont think so, i know so!! but its a process, cant happen overnight!
its a matter of physical laws, like gravity and you can understand gravity coz its so obvious. well mind over matter is obvious too coz fear of not having and starving manifests as not having and starving!
i grew up in slovenia, former federative socialist republic of yugoslavia, where knowledge was very limited and controlled by government. we came a long way from there and maybe because of all over lack of everything we have more desire to change things for the better than ppl in the western world.
i dont do anything for a living anymore, i have retired from work and now money works for me - it was my goal and there was no doubt in my focus! it took me 1 year to realize it, but it took me about 2 years to learn and get it and accept the fact that i am responsible for my life, for all the good and the bad things in life, including the car accidents, bad relationships,..
now i'm moving even further than that and its even more interesting, finding out about 7D reality, time-space perspective and so on.

seriously guys if you need any guidance to what to study please ask, i'd be glad to help, but dont waste your energy trying to oppose my saying coz everything IS energy and wherever you give your focus to, there is where it will take you, it is that simple!

[DIDI]

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wow it amazes me how quickly people decide not to give it a chance to learn and settle for what they know sucks but sounds familiar enough to be comfortable with
so why bother to whine about how shitty your situation is if youre not willing to do anything about it??
and of course you know it doesnt work because you just found out about it 2 seconds ago - well done!
so how come i managed to retire at my age and have whatever i wish for just because i followed the knowledge??
instead we should believe you have the real formula how to make things better and your proof is a shitty job, recession, hunger... no thank you!!!
well at the end its your choice and remember you mad it and no government prevented you to learn or stopped you to at least watch a movie
jeezzz

Actually you are the only one whining, because we disagree with you. No one seems to be settling, we are all doing different things in different ways. We just happen to be a bit more realistic. Quite frankly I can put my time to far better use than you suggest.
I don''t know how you got to where you are , but I'm willing to bet there was certainly good oldfashioned hard work involved. I would actually rather hear about how you improved the lot of the poor of this world in any other way than the conventional method of charity .
Pity a lot of those poor people that have no way of watching your movie!!

Very simply and realistically , the earth has finite resources, if we all get that we want , someone else will miss out big time. I should point out that one of the main issues is that the affluent use far more of those resources !

Now how about you stop hijacking this thread to push your agenda. And pleeease quit with the platitudes !!!

no i dont think so, i know so!! but its a process, cant happen overnight!

Well they are dead the next day !!

[feather]

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Hmmm so I can think myself into not being hungry? Can I think myself into Vortices? That will save me a lot of time and money chasing after Digweed.

[DIDI]

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^^^^ Actually I can do that. Just work around with the ipod full bore !!!

I'm glad it worked out for you, but I really don't agree with what you say. To be honest, I think it is pretty callous and condescending to infer that all people who starve do so because of their own poor choices or laziness and that they should just "pull themselves out of it".

Yes, I agree that getting somewhere in life virtually always comes down to personal initiative, determination, and hard work. But circumstances of life also play a huge role. I may be wrong, but I'm going to guess that you at least lived in environments where there was some functional civilization - you likely wore shoes, you had running water, you probably ate food every day, had access to some basic sanitation, probably at least a basically functional school system, and probably didn't deal with warfare in the streets. It's always much easier when you're in that environment to get very philosophical about the power of willpower and DNA, etc.

While you were doing that, some kid somewhere across the world was growing up in an environment that had none of that - no running water, no basic sanitation, probably no school system at all - hell, probably no real economy or currency, even - and quite possibly brutal violence and disease to top it all off.

Now some people in that environment will "make it" through determination and hard work, but there will be many determined, hard-working people who won't because the environmental circumstances will stop them. They will die of dysentery. They will be raped and beaten to death in violent ethnic bloodshed. They will die of hunger before they even reach puberty because there simply is nothing anywhere to eat. How do you propose that those people just positively think their way into the riches that you enjoy?

Sure, it's a cop-out to use one's circumstances to just be lazy and give up; one should always strive for something better. But life is unfortunately not fair, and oftentimes your circumstances can play a greater role in your living standard than you might even recognize. You've probably benefitted greatly from the economy/capitalism thing and you probably still do. Don't forget that we take a lot for granted in our nice countries; even many of the poor there live like kings compared to other places in this world.

So sensible .

[Kat]

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what you resist persists

[DIDI]

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More platitudes