Michael Jackson's life story

[picklemonkey]

Re: But if we started dating it would ruin our friendship...

[ddr]

Re: His life story

^ Yes, many times we do have miscommunications...sort of normal I think coz we all come from different cultures...many times i donno if someone is joking or not.

But plz feather, don't make me seem the one "different", with different perceptions "from most of us" thing and all that coz I have never asked for anyone to open threads about me nor expect any compliments from anybody, but they simply keep on coming, and I cant control what people say or type.
I don't like to be blamed like that...for doing what??? for being who I am??!
A recent example, whats this?!



I don't see the name "feather" in the highlights... Did I ask for it?!! Do I need it??!!! I shouldn't be blamed like that, blamed for what others do, or for what I am or for how I look...that type of attitude is not fair, it is not square!
Some users wana make jokes, and I go along with it; after all we are here for fun. But i don't accept to have fun at my expense (coz I could act/react differently trust me).

Another point: the subject was almost cleared & closed....but it just got re-opened, u just did, why feather?! Why is there a need to point me out and then sort of blame me for it...?!



For me there is no problem but it seems many do have problems...
I didn't ask to be put at the center of the attentions, but someone keeps on doing it.

you do kind of encourage those kinds of posts... i remember when we had that banner with random photos and most of the time 3/5 of the pictures were of you, posted by you... lol it has gone down a lot in recent months because people are starting to post pictures though =p

[Kat]

Re: Feather's life story

@ this thread

[dusk]

Re: Feather's life story

Wow.. just read this entire thread.. very very entertaining to say the least. this is a perfect example of 'twilight zone'

I don't even want to know what kinds of other mischief picklemonkey can get up too... lol

[Shiva]

Re: His life story

you do kind of encourage those kinds of posts... i remember when we had that banner with random photos and most of the time 3/5 of the pictures were of you, posted by you... lol it has gone down a lot in recent months because people are starting to post pictures though =p

Well yes, I post pix just like anybody else...few things on [MS] were encouraged by my behavior, of which the whole "random pix" idea that u have on the main page. I see this as something positive, the forum evolved...and still is.

It is good to have most users post their pix, that was the aim. I wasnt very comfortable with the fact of having 3/5 pix to be of me on the main page, but it did the effect we expected it to do: encourage others to post pix. The idea materialized successfully, and in fact the forum looks more alive since then.

If a user wants to see my pix he knows where to find them...

I don't even want to know what kinds of other mischief picklemonkey can get up too... lol

He has his own ways of having fun from the backstage...and I got my eyes on him

[rainman]

Re: But if we started dating it would ruin our friendship...

[ddr]

Re: His life story

Well yes, I post pix just like anybody else...few things on [MS] were encouraged by my behavior, of which the whole "random pix" idea that u have on the main page.

that is where i am getting at though.... sure a few face pics or everyday 'hello' type pictures are great but when you post "glamour/sexy poses" shots of yourself, especially if you are a good looking woman, you will get attention because of it.

[Yao]

Re: Shiva's life story

Stil had to react on this one:

But on a personal note guys, if she doen't want to be with you (and act like a brother-sister type of deal), then she is not meant to be yours to begin with....and life goes on.

Totally true. Sometimes your system just takes longer to accept and proceed. Mine is taking very, very long this time.

@the rest: man that's funny...but let's face it. I'd leave Paris Hilton standing at the bar for any female that has something intelligent to say -looks are worth jack shit unless you're raving drunk and not able to have a decent convo yourself anyway (but in that case I could also hump my date's teddybear). Actually...I'd leave her standing there even if she were the only woman in the room. If there's one thing I can't stand it's dumb or fake people, no matter how beautiful they are. Or think they are.


Oh, and when old age has wrinkled a once smoothless skin, there can still be so much beauty. The skin is just part of the bigger equation that beauty is. How else do you explain falling madly in love with someone while there is many physically more attractive beings around than the one you chose? It's the sum of all that is in you that counts, the wrapping certainly helps but is definitely not the only decisive factor.

[feather]

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^ Yes, many times we do have miscommunications...sort of normal I think coz we all come from different cultures...many times i donno if someone is joking or not.

But plz feather, don't make me seem the one "different", with different perceptions "from most of us" thing and all that

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Another point: the subject was almost cleared & closed....but it just got re-opened, u just did, why feather?! Why is there a need to point me out and then sort of blame me for it...?!

I was simply pointing out that this is a recurring thing whenever the topic of looks, beauty, sex, and Shiva, comes together in a thread. Nothing to do with making fun of you or blaming you.

This whole thread and past thread of similar topics simply indicate you have a different outlook on these things. I am simply going out on a limb here and pointing that out. I will admit that this is presumptious, but perhaps your good looks and your vocation colours your perception of such issues, and this is further exacerbated by your obliviousness to what I'm trying to say here.

[Shiva]

Re: Feather's life story

that is where i am getting at though.... sure a few face pics or everyday 'hello' type pictures are great but when you post "glamour/sexy poses" shots of yourself, especially if you are a good looking woman, you will get attention because of it.

Yes. True. But the pix I posted on my profile (which are shown in the random pix section) are mostly modeling & djing pix. Now unlike most of you, I live in the middle-east, in a place where showing skin can be considered as something "offensive". All of those pix were taken from ads/jobs I made in the region and they were mostly published in regional magazines. My assumption was that if in the middle-east those pix were accepted without making a big fuzz out of it, I supposed that they would be easily accepted on [MS] as well, maybe without giving them much importance to them even (but that was a wrong assumption obviously).

Now when I wana go "heavier" and use my body for sensuality purposes I do it inside threads so that it is done in a discreet manner. I am always careful not to be/seem vulgar coz I don't like vulgarity (in general). I love mercuryserver and my thought in this was to add a special flavor to it; I mean come on, where else do u have a female dj/model active member of a forum displaying such pix, coz after all what I am displaying is QUALITY done with DISCRETION...got to admit that it has added something pretty special to this forum; And as a consequence many fans followed me here and registered to [MS]. What I am saying are facts and not just words.

That is how I view it, and honestly i am negatively surprised at some comments where I feel envy and sometimes even jealousy.

To those I say that I don't need [MS] as a platform to market myself, as much as I need MCast to promote my music, thats is what brought me here in the first place. If I wana market myself I have other places and means of doing it, and in a more effective way where I could reach double or triple the total number of active members this forum has.
But I wana solve this "Shiva-sex-beauty" B.S. issue, so I am working on it: In fact I have already shifted all my pix to "private" mode in a way that they won't appear anymore on the main page. Also some fans of mine have posted my pix in their albums, I will try to ask them to remove them, even if it is their account and i am not supposed to ask them anything or tell them what do with it. So you will be seeing less of me, and hopefull reading less of me as well.

I hope this reaction of mine will put a smile on some faces, more than this, I also tell them that I will even participate less to this forum hoping that the Shiva issue wont surface again.

But I won't hide that I have a feeling of disapointment from some members, I was expecting something else, something more mature and solid....but nevermind, it is not important anyway.

CheerZ

[Yao]

Re: His life story

I was simply pointing out that this is a recurring thing whenever the topic of looks, beauty, sex, and Shiva, comes together in a thread. Nothing to do with making fun of you or blaming you.

This whole thread and past thread of similar topics simply indicate you have a different outlook on these things. I am simply going out on a limb here and pointing that out. I will admit that this is presumptious, but perhaps your good looks and your vocation colours your perception of such issues, and this is further exacerbated by your obliviousness to what I'm trying to say here.

K, dude...this has nothing to do with different look on things. I Made a little except of some of the posts that IMO show exactly how this thread got turned into what it is:

maybe if you all are lucky, shiva will add some points to the topic, she would know better than any seeing as how I am sure she has plenty of guy friends that have had to settle for just being friends

...whatever. Many women have this happen but Shiva seems to have such an amount of experience in this that particularly she should shed a light on this?

or any other female member

Exactly.

^Sure I guess, but Shiva's obviously had to deal with the "let's just be friends" scenario more than many women than you or I know who have.

Keep pushing for Shiva.

Well, all my friends are guys, and they all know I am happily married since 16yrs and still greatly in love with my hubby....besides the fact that my friends are also his friends, and he earns their respect.

So no, I dont get into the "lets just be friends" type of situation...anymore.

But on a personal note guys, if she doen't want to be with you (and act like a brother-sister type of deal), then she is not meant to be yours to begin with....and life goes on.

You got your answer.

^^ no disrespect shiv, but do you ever get tired of guys kissing your ass because you are hot? i personally find it rediculous, but it has to get old at some point.
^^without putting words in her mouth, how would she know any different?

But it's not enough?

I'm gonna come right out and say this: Any thread revolving looks, sex, beauty, Shiva--turns into what we have here. There is always some sort of miscommunication mis-translation going on. It's clear she has different perceptions on these issues from most of us, and I think it's a fine example of the point rainman raised.

Yay, it's all her fault now and women in general cannot communicate with men!

Who's the moron here having communication problems? It sure as hell ain't Shiva, but a bunch of guy that persist in pushing her forward when any women-related topic hits the board. If you keep ignoring what someone says long enough, you're gonna end up exactly at this spot. For fucks sake man, if you have such a problem with Shiva being present around here, then stop mentioning her goddamn name.

And to all that will most definitely be pissed off with me now:

[Miroslav]

Re: His life story

Who's the moron here having communication problems? It sure as hell ain't Shiva, but a bunch of guy that persist in pushing her forward when any women-related topic hits the board. If you keep ignoring what someone says long enough, you're gonna end up exactly at this spot. For fucks sake man, if you have such a problem with Shiva being present around here, then stop mentioning her goddamn name.

I have to second this. Well said.

I'm still not sure why it is that some people felt that we had to take a simple post about a humor article and turn it into this drawn out request / expectations for Shiva to serve as the spokesperson for women who receive attention from men. It's all seemed quite strange and silly to me. I don't think she deserved all of the backlash for this thread - and that's irrespective of any personal opinions I have about her pictures or male-female interactions in general, etc.

[feather]

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My only contribution in this thread was explaining a post and then making an observation based on my time on this board and past instances. I almost made a post with quotes in response to Yao, but who gives a flying fuck. I'm not going to add more fuel or be further embroiled in the kinda nonsense that happens around these threads.

I stand by what I said. Some of you see it, and some don't. That's fine, god forbid we all decide to agree with each other at the same time.

[floridaorange]

Re: Feather's life story

^ That last paragraph = exactly.
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And God forbid we take posts with a grain of salt more often than not and give members the benefit of the doubt and center the discussion on what we have in common instead of what we do not.
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But frankly, I did not know how many real 30 - 40 year old (experienced) female models you all have had the opportunity of knowing and discussing philosophical topics with. I made the assumption that Shiva was the exception and thought she if anyone would have had enough experience with keeping her guy friends in the friendship category to be able to articulate a profound response on such. And since I already knew from experience she would be happy to go into depth on this topic, her name naturally came to mind when this thread was originated. And of course any female on MS is welcome to add their experiences to the discussion...right?
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What I should have probably allowed her to simply chime in if she wanted to. I assumed we were all familiar enough with her that it would be no biggie for me to name drop. But h well, lesson learned, and now I'm looking fwd to letting this one join the archives ^_^

[Yao]

Re: Feather's life story

Sorry for being so rude guys. Could've probably made my point with a bit more tact...