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lol you can't really compare the three IMO. Landing on the moon, religion or 9/11. Very different.
lol you can't really compare the three IMO. Landing on the moon, religion or 9/11. Very different.
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Just to clarify Miro, you're saying nobody knows all of the inner workings of 9/11, but a conspiracy it was not. Going fwd, the world will believe what they want to. I can live w. that.
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Well religion can never be proven...its really faith backed by no empirical evidence.
Moon landings can be proven with evidence collected there dirt, images etc. 9/11 can be proven as well but the US government chooses to withhold tapes documents etc. So it is very different from one another.The Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
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Well, that's just my current opinion...but what do I really know; I don't know the inner workings, of course. I've seen the expert commentary for and against; at the end of the day, it just doesn't pass the common sense test for me.mixes: www.waxdj.com/miroslavComment
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^i got into this debate about structural engineering basically and how the towers fell blah blah blah...why is it so difficult to believe for people?
In my humble opinion, if a large aircraft runs into a building way up high in the sky (1) and causes massive fires that engulf several floors destroying the structural integrity of those initial floors (2) a domino type of implosion is going to follow (3) this is logical to me.
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No it isn't very logical when those floors that "Domino" give absolutely zero resistance on the way down. It fell at the speed of gravity. When a building is structurally damaged it falls over. It doesn't fall into its footprint either. That only happens in a controlled demo..
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JAkE-691vs[/youtube]
It also doesn't get pulverized. There is no logic for the concrete to explode in mid air as well. They didn't find a phone or a computer. It was pulverized. and no it wasn't designed that way either.. It had 47 steel columns in the center. It was built to take multiple plane hits. I don't believe the gov't did it though. I just want a new real investigation.
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If tons of exploding melted steal is falling in on itself from the TOP, why would it topple? I just think that part of the argument is the silliest...how many buildings like the twin towers have had jets fly into them? If a train hard ran into the tower at the bottom, a topple yes, but at the top? I'm no architect, but...
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exploding melting steel? Kerosene doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel.. The building was made to withstand multiple hits from planes. The top part should have fallen over not even the whole building.
And there wasn't any resistance from the floors as it was plowing through each floor? Why don't you just go talk to a scientist or an architect rather then just guessing strongly. I have asked scientists and architects and it doesn't make sense to them.Comment
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^I'm actually not interested in debating that part of the movie, mostly the part about the US government having some role in 9/11 and the reason for why internationals would believe such bs.
This looks about right to me btw:
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Mhhvl7vWk[/YOUTUBE]
As you can see, the towers do fall to the side and then down.
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Ya I agree but there should have been resistance from each floor as it went down. It shouldn't have fallen at free fall speed. I am also refering to building 7 that is the one that gets. I mean a plane didn't even hit that building.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESol88wOi0[/youtube]
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IMO the evidence that there is something wrong with 9/11 is OVERWHELMING that said I don't mean that the US government carried off the attack on its own although I wouldn't exclude that the element who are normally employed for the government had a big role. I honestly believe that you have to have something wrong with you to believe the official story. I know for a fact that the steel columns of the WTO would have managed to withstand the impact. Even my dad when he saw it was like "this is complete bullshit" and he's been in large scale construction for like 25 years.
In my opinion this was most likely done by people who stand to profit from an increase in US military spending...this is big money! We are talking about hundreds of billions $. The fact that the official 9/11 commission (which I have read in full) makes Absolutely no sense of the events whatsoever is just an insult to anyone who dares to think independently.The Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
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^^ I Know. I love how in the commission they just decided to leave the 47 steel colomuns out because they couldn't explain why it imploded..Comment
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Ya but they always leave the core pillars out. They really can't explain that.
All I want is another investigation using "science" not visual theories. The world deserves another investigation since the last one was a disaster and so much has happened in the name of 9/11. Even if the concrete did "pancake" the core should still be standing.Comment
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