you know what's astonishing?

[runningman]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

Miro what is your explanation to a 40ft plane (4 story) going into only a 10' hole? I mean wow what do you need my friend shock therapy or what?

Damn Hani Hanjour was some pilot.. I like how you guys don't even touch that one.. WEAK!

[Miroslav]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

Miro what is your explanation to a 40ft plane (4 story) going into only a 10' hole? I mean wow what do you need my friend shock therapy or what?

I do not need shock therapy; only those fools who insist that there is a "Pentagon" need shock therapy!

I mean...so what if the American Society of Civil Engineers' Pentagon Building Performance Report actually approximated a 75-foot hole in the outer E ring, the facade of which then collapsed 20 minutes later? Everybody knows that that report was written by Mossad.

And we don't even need to consider the E ring! We can just look at something in the inner C ring and infer everything from that! And that leads us to the FACTUAL CONCLUSION that there was no "outer ring" or "plane" and that Mossad is responsible for everything!

That, my friend, is my explanation. whoop!

[floridaorange]

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Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft, which is actually the measurement from the wheels-down to the tip of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance, not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building.

Look at the nose-on view of a 757 - you can see the body is slightly less than 1/3 the size of the height of the aircraft. The tail certainly isn't going to punch a hole through a reinforced concrete wall; that is why there is no 40 foot hole in the front of the Pentagon in any photos. A 40 foot object didn't hit it, a 13 foot object did.

[runningman]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

hani hanjour the worlds greatest pilot.

[Miroslav]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft, which is actually the measurement from the wheels-down to the tip of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance, not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building.

Look at the nose-on view of a 757 - you can see the body is slightly less than 1/3 the size of the height of the aircraft. The tail certainly isn't going to punch a hole through a reinforced concrete wall; that is why there is no 40 foot hole in the front of the Pentagon in any photos. A 40 foot object didn't hit it, a 13 foot object did.

Yayy! Let's all just look at a picture where most of the entry area is covered up by fire trucks spraying shit and determine from this that the hole was the size of a US quarter! We are all so collectively SMRT! That society of civil engineers is filled with a bunch of spies!

We don't have to look LOWER than the fire truck stream in the picture above, because there is NOTHING to see there!!!


Yes, the hole was only the size of a dinner plate!!!

actually, let's keep looking at the picture of the fire trucks covering over most of the "hole", which doesn't exist anyways (neither do the fire trucks because there was no inferno here, either) - it's better for the TRUTH that way!!!

[chunky]

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brother chunky, you are SO SMRT! high five, buddy!

...do you guys like me now? Am I part of the team now???

I always did like you. I think you are very intelligent & I enjoy reading your posts. Your long running battle with runningman is one of the joys of this forum. I just disagree with you on this subject.

[chunky]

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What no fold up wings ?

[Miroslav]

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^^ aww fanks, buddy!


(I got no personal beef wit you, either! )

but I would be careful about relying on that one entry hole pic...



I should stop drinking at work!

[floridaorange]

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^What then Runningman, Chunky and Yesme are you guys suggesting took place on Sept. 11th???

I think it takes guts for you guys to suggest so many American's who were victims on Sept 11th are fools for believing what they literally experienced in Manhattan and DC. We're not talking about two cities comprised of hillbillies. Some of the best and brightest minds in the world witnessed the events that took place.

I find it insulting to claim that these homemade movies featuring slides and dramatic overtones are the truth.

Moreover, because there has not been another investigation, you should then understand that that is due to a lack of legitimate claims with any real validity that have fought for one.

[runningman]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

most of the families that had loved ones that died want a new investigation. Soooo good try though. They are actually looking to raise $50 mil for the new one. Most of the victims heard the booms in the building as well. 51% of Americans according to Zogby want a new investigation. So you are in the minority. I find it insulting that you believe your media when you know your country is corupt as fuck. I mean shit Florida you even admit that you think the gov\t keeps 75% of the truth from you..

http://www.vegsource.com/talk/flame/messages/5998.html

http://blog.nj.com/njv_bob_braun/2009/08/911_survivors_call_for_renewed.html

Hani Hanjour.

[floridaorange]

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I'm not against looking deeply into 9/11...I'm for it.

Formal investigating = great

Homemade slide shows and with dramatic music = not great.

[chunky]

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Moreover, because there has not been another investigation, you should then understand that that is due to a lack of legitimate claims with any real validity that have fought for one.

The Bush Administration didn't want a investigation to start with. It was only due the campaign of the Jersey widows. Then when they where forced to have an investigation they put Henry Kissinger in charge, who was forced to resign before the investigation even started. They then put Philip D. Zelikow in charge, basically auditing themselves. The Bush administration put up a fund of $3 million (they spent over $100 million tiring to impeach Clinton) they where forced to increase it so they increased it to $15 million. The answered 30% of the questions the Jersey Widows wanted answering.

[chunky]

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I'm not against looking deeply into 9/11...I'm for it.

Formal investigating = great

Homemade slide shows and with dramatic music = not great.

You prefer the CNN/ABC slide show with the dramatic music instead. Or that geezer with the fold up wings.

I don't what your documentaries are like in the States but in the UK they don't tend to play "Kum ba yah, my Lord, Kum ba yah". DJ Shadow Mutual Slump is always a popular one with the BBC whether its Cot Death, Gun Crime, or even X Factor

[floridaorange]

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^Frankly, I prefer no music

[Miroslav]

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I am all for another investigation!

I hope it is led by Steven Jones and all of the armchair experts who see molten metal coming out of "cool" buildings, who post pictures of welders and firefighters working by light as evidence of the "hot core" (after the cool fire), who post picture of the C ring as if it was the E ring, who see irrefutable evidence of cruise missiles, UFOs, etc. and who like to make sweeping inferences from pictures that cover up stuff at misleading angles.

That will be one awesome, hilarious read! The FACTS have never been so much FUN!