"You Lie"

[runningman]

Well did anybody see Obama's speech yesterday? I thought it was a great speech full of all the lies and usual bullshit he says. What a great moment when Joe Wilson spoke up and yelled "You Lie!" finally Obama got a taste of what all the others are getting when they do their townhalls.

The major lie for me yesterday was Obama taking credit for turning the economy around. What a crock of shit when the jobless report came out today saying another 216,000 people lost their jobs last month. I guess when quarter of a million people lose their job it is a success. Also when analysts are saying that millions of foreclosures are on the way.. Oh ya great job.

[toasty]

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Well did anybody see Obama's speech yesterday? I thought it was a great speech full of all the lies and usual bullshit he says. What a great moment when Joe Wilson spoke up and yelled "You Lie!" finally Obama got a taste of what all the others are getting when they do their townhalls.

I suppose it should come as no surprise to anyone that you view as a great moment something that everyone else recognizes as a real low point for American politics. It's one thing when unhinged, knuckle-dragging wingnuts at town halls disrepect their elected officials, but we should hold members of Congress to a higher standard. I don't really care if his "emotions got the better of him" or whatever bullshit excuse he offered -- he's a member of Congress and he should have some fucking self-control.

I don't want to make an overly big deal about this -- not calling for his resignation, not demanding a better apology, nor am I ginning up any mock outrage over his stunt. I just think it is really pathetic that it has devolved to this, where members of Congress whip themselves into such a lather that they can't conduct themselves in a dignified manner.

Policy aside, I don't think that there's anyone that could sincerely contest Obama's desire to work on things in bi-partisan fashion, that he would prefer to have the GOP involved in the process rather than just ramming something through Congress -- indeed, if he just wanted to ram something through, Rahm would have cracked some skulls and it would have happened by now. When this is what meets you on the other side, though, where some on the other side have no interest in intelligent discourse, it sorta removes the incentive to include them in the fold. Sad.

[runningman]

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even in the British house of commons people can speak out. When did the US become so proper? Someone had to speak out against Obama since his healthcare townhalls were rigged.

What you view as a sad day should be viewed as a great day. The people are finally being heard in the big house. You see when the Senators do townhalls and get heckled that moves on to the big house. It is a chain effect.

[lilsensa]

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[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyTelRaoBAI[/YOUTUBE]

[runningman]

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Pelosi's face is priceless.

[Huggie Smiles]

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even in the British house of commons people can speak out. t.

I don't think the Prime Minister has ever been called a liar in the house of commons tho (if it has happened its not regular occurrence

Obama since his healthcare townhalls were rigged.
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!!!!! haha

[toasty]

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even in the British house of commons people can speak out.

There is a difference between "speaking out" and being a dick. Clearly the latter here.

What you view as a sad day should be viewed as a great day.

If this was such a watershed moment, why did Wilson issue a mea culpa before the post speech coverage was even over?

[runningman]

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it is a thing called politics. I'm not pro anyone in congress I hate them all but at least a heckel came out since all around the country hecklers are running townhalls.

I mean who is this guy Jesus Christ? You can't call him a liar?

[toasty]

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it is a thing called politics. I'm not pro anyone in congress I hate them all but at least a heckel came out since all around the country hecklers are running townhalls.

I mean who is this guy Jesus Christ? You can't call him a liar?

Of course you can, 1st Amendment guarantees it. Time and place, that's all I'm saying.

[runningman]

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But Obama called them liars in his speech.

[toasty]

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There is a stark difference between:

Some of people's concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but by prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens.


Now, such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie plain and simple.

...in prepared remarks, and:

YOU LIE!

...shouted out in the middle of a speech. If you can't see that, I'm not sure what to tell you.

[Lorn]

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he's a member of Congress and he should have some fucking self-control.

lol...this made me laugh.

[runningman]

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Toasty you live in denial. What would give you the impression that anyone in congress has self control? All of them are either fucking someone or doing something illegal or not paying taxes.

[Lorn]

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^spot on.

[chuckc]

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what a joke our whole entire gov is now....a complete joke...

and does obama really think americans are that stupid to beleive that this reform is not going to cost one dime...

that 900billion will be found in waste that is occuring in medicare?????

give me a frekin break.

I am fed up with all this crap

still would like to know where the extra doctors will come from now that they have another 50million new patients....he didnt even mention that.