"You Lie"

[toasty]

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I'm starting to think that you are part of some kind of online "Candid Camera" show or something, because no one could possibly be this dense. Any time there is more than one way to interpret a comment, you necessarily gravitate to the one that makes the least sense. It's painful.

Whether someone is a douchebag in their private life and whether someone is capable of behaving like an adult when necessary are two entirely different things. This guy gets himself so whipped into a froth that he just blurts shit out in the middle of a President's address to Congress? It should not happen. When elected officials -- ostensibly the measured, thoughtful leaders of our nation -- start demonstrating the same one-man-mob mentality that characterizes the lunatic fringe (a/k/a your living room), that's a problem.

And incidentally, at least two fact-checking sites (here and here) have sided against Wilson on his claim that Obama lied -- making the outburst all the more unnecessary.

[runningman]

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toasty its politics.. maybe it was planned to get his name out there against Obama. Maybe he will be the new face of the republicans? who gives a shit. I just didn't think it was that big of a deal to be honest and posted it because I knew it would be a good talking point. I was just happy that Obama got heckled because he deserves it. The dollar is doomed, his policies suck, no accountablity, no trasparency, the guy is a liar. What is painful is your absolute belief in your gov't when you have no reason whatsover to have faith.

Toasty you will notice I never result to personal attacks unlesss provoked. It is lame and shows intelligence. I say what is on my cuff, that has always been my problem and blessing at the same time. Some people hate me for it and some people love me for it. When they want it between the eyes they come to me. And I am giving your countries image right between the eyes. Absolute denial is not the way to go.

[toasty]

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What is painful is your absolute belief in your gov't when you have no reason whatsover to have faith.

It's not that I have unyielding faith in my government, it's that I don't view everything through the jaundiced eyes of a conspiracy theorist, nor do I start from the proposition that we're fucked. I don't know how you get out of bed in the morning with that mindset of yours, honestly.

Toasty you will notice I never result to personal attacks unlesss provoked. It is lame and shows intelligence. I say what is on my cuff, that has always been my problem and blessing at the same time. Some people hate me for it and some people love me for it. When they want it between the eyes they come to me. And I am giving your countries image right between the eyes.

Literally laughed out loud at this, dude, you're killing me. Between the complete absence of a logical process in your thinking, the fact that you actually created a separate account on here to support yourself when you were on the wrong side of an argument, and the general gravitation towards all things conspiratorial, the idea of you as resident truth-teller is spectacularly off-target.

FFS dude, doesn't it strike you as odd that the "-er" title of the day -- "truther," "birther," "deather," etc. -- always applies to you? It's cartoonish in its absurdity.

[runningman]

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Your Obama loving colours seize to amaze me Toasty. How many more lies does he have to follow through on before you believe there is absolutely NO CHANGE whatsover. He even admitted last night that he was going along with some of the Bush policies.. Let see what he has done with his change.

Promised out of Iraq - He is pulling the Military and bringing in mercenaries and escalating Afghanistan another stupid war.

Promised 3 million jobs - So far 3 million have been lost

Says the economy is turning around - BULLSHIT

Said he wouldn't add signing statments to bills like Bush did - Lie

Where is the accountability? Where is the trasparency?

What's it gonna take?

[labmonkey]

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Well did anybody see Obama's speech yesterday? I thought it was a great speech full of all the lies and usual bullshit he says. What a great moment when Joe Wilson spoke up and yelled "You Lie!" finally Obama got a taste of what all the others are getting when they do their townhalls.

The major lie for me yesterday was Obama taking credit for turning the economy around. What a crock of shit when the jobless report came out today saying another 216,000 people lost their jobs last month. I guess when quarter of a million people lose their job it is a success. Also when analysts are saying that millions of foreclosures are on the way.. Oh ya great job.

It's not just embarrasing, cowardly, classles, ignorant and out of place runningman and if we are talking about liers I think the past administration would easily get the part for the remake of pinnochio....

[runningman]

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I didn't like Bush either.

[toasty]

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@ runningman

This is another fantastic example of what I'm talking about. I post something that doesn't even breathe the word Obama and is actually just critical of your thought process generally, and you interpret it as a love-in for Obama. The truth is, you don't know my current take on Obama, because I haven't been posting in this section much of late, but I can assure you that I have a very realistic and sober take on his current job performance and my expectations of his presidency, which are disconnected from the overreaction du jour you like to propagate around here.

My biggest concern, and the reason I actually decided to chime in on this, is that your opening post is demonstrative of the celebration of ignorance that characterizes what passes for political discourse these days. This ass clown interrupts a speech, calling the Pres a liar. That's something I would expect to see on a playground, not the floor of the House. What if the GOP members had just put their fingers in their ears and said "BLAH BLAH BLAH" throughout the speech? Would that appropriate?

This is important stuff worthy of serious debate, not the chides of a 6 year old.

[labmonkey]

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I didn't like Bush either.

I didn't like him either and most of the country too and he was never interrupted or heckled in this manner, this shows how civility is something that we desperate need in order to resolve our problems, we are all on the same boat, we all need medical attention one day or another in our lives...

[runningman]

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It is showing that desperate times call for desperate measures. Almost 56 million people are out of work and 39 million are living in poverty.

What do you expect? Just go away and die? I feel like I'm watching crank when you guys speak. Do you think your country has CUNT written on its forehead?

More people are unemployed now then in the Great Depression. Those numbers are gross. So if you want something to put your panties in a mess make it about that. Not about jesus getting called a liar.

[Kamal]

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Toasty you live in denial. What would give you the impression that anyone in congress has self control? All of them are either fucking someone or doing something illegal or not paying taxes.

here's 1

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/10/california.assemblyman.resigns/index.html

A Southern California assemblyman resigned Wednesday after a recording of him whispering about sexual exploits to a colleague was made public.

Former Republican Assemblyman Mike Duvall was at an appropriations committee meeting in July when a microphone picked up his licentious conversation.

[Lorn]

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here's 1

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/...gns/index.html

Seems to me it validates Runningman's point.

[Kamal]

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my post was off topic to the discourse at hand, but yes when I read runningman's post, that's the first thing that came to mind today that someone supposedly on an family values/ethics committee was discussing an escapade with someone 18 years their junior, that too on an open mic.

here's the vid - http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...ex.scandal.cnn

[labmonkey]

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It is showing that desperate times call for desperate measures. Almost 56 million people are out of work and 39 million are living in poverty.

What do you expect? Just go away and die? I feel like I'm watching crank when you guys speak. Do you think your country has CUNT written on its forehead?

More people are unemployed now then in the Great Depression. Those numbers are gross. So if you want something to put your panties in a mess make it about that. Not about jesus getting called a liar.

for god's sake take a look at this and don't compare pears to apples:

"The population more than doubled between 1940 and 2000. It reached 300 million in 2006 and is still growing. The 2006 population of California alone was 36,457,549, more than a quarter of the national population in 1940"


Of course there's more people unemployed now than in the great depression you moron, and most of the unemployed are the sad heritage of Bush's economic policies geared guess what, to make the rich richer and to keep the rest on the edge, and the only one's fucking this country are the big pharmaceutical and insurance companies who make the grossest profits at the expense of the peoples health, maybe you're getting a little brain freeze up there my friend...

[runningman]

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I'm comparing humans to humans.. beware of the numbers and %'s.. hungry is hungry..39 million people hungry in the US is more than the population of Canada. It is a shame.

[chunky]

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I don't think the Prime Minister has ever been called a liar in the house of commons tho (if it has happened its not regular occurrence

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4SNYJ_enGB316GB222&ei=eFapStTkDsarjAf4gvDzBw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=prime+minister+called+liar+in+house+of+commons&spell=1

Or they throw floor at him instead.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3728617.stm