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  • thesightless
    Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
    • Jun 2004
    • 13567

    amazing science

    Rat brain flies jet
    By Robin Lettice
    Published Tuesday 7th December 2004 16:01 GMT
    Florida scientists have grown a brain in a petri dish and taught it to fly a fighter plane.

    The "brain", grown from 25,000 neural cells extracted from a single rat embryo, has been taught to fly an F-22 jet simulator by scientists at the University of Florida. It was taught to control the flight path, even in mock hurricane-strength winds.

    "When we first hooked them up, the plane 'crashed' all the time," Dr Thomas DeMarse, an assistant professor of biomedical engineering at the University of Florida, said. "But over time, the neural network slowly adapts as the brain learns to control the pitch and roll of the aircraft. After a while, it produces a nice straight and level trajectory."

    The brain-in-a-dish was DeMarse' idea. To produce it, 25,000 neurones from a rat embryo were suspended in a specialised liquid to keep them alive and then laid across a grid of 60 electrodes in a small glass dish.

    The cells at first looked like grains of sand under the microscope, but soon began to connect to form what scientists call a "live computation device" (a brain). Electrodes monitor and stimulate neural activity in this network, allowing researchers to study how the brain processes and transfers information.

    The scientists hope that their research will lead to hybrid computers with organic components, allowing more flexible and varied means of solving problems.

    One potential application is to install living computers in unmanned aircraft for missions too dangerous for humans. It is also hoped that the research will provide the basis for developing new drugs to treat brain diseases such as epilepsy, The Age reports.

    "The algorithms that living computers use are also extremely fault-tolerant," Dr DeMarse said. "A few neurons die off every day in humans without any noticeable drop in performance, and yet if the same were to happen in a traditional silicon-based computer the results would be catastrophic."

    The US National Science Foundation has awarded the team a $500,000 grant to produce a mathematical model of how the neurons compute. ?
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  • skahound
    Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
    • Jun 2004
    • 11411

    #2
    Re: amazing science

    Originally posted by thesightless
    scientists have grown a brain in a petri dish
    Well, at least we now know where Michael Bolton came from.
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    • chato
      Gold Gabber
      • Jun 2004
      • 815

      #3
      Re: amazing science

      The scientists hope that their research will lead to hybrid computers with organic components, allowing more flexible and varied means of solving problems.
      holly shit... the terminator story could become true :P
      these scientifics dont watch movies... do they?! lol
      ...enjoy every single second

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      • Garrick
        DUDERZ get a life!!!
        • Jun 2004
        • 6764

        #4
        Re: amazing science

        Originally posted by skahound
        Originally posted by thesightless
        scientists have grown a brain in a petri dish
        Well, at least we now know where Michael Bolton came from.


        :ROFLMAO:
        Should I fuck you at that not until the ass, inject then tremendously hard bumschen and to the termination in the eyes yes?

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        • In-SighT
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          • Jun 2004
          • 430

          #5
          ^^^^ shit they better start watching the terminator or at least the matrix...

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          pretty amazing though, damn
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          • ubiqe
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            • Jun 2004
            • 1731

            #6
            Re: amazing science

            Originally posted by thesightless
            The US National Science Foundation has awarded the team a $500,000 grant to produce a mathematical model of how the neurons compute. ?
            Good luck. Half of modern physics, neurophisiology, psychology, cognitive science works on that for a few decades now.

            That's what I'm doing for my PhD also... Just wait a few years till I get the degree and everything will be known. Anyway, maybe that's why I like Matrix so much. :wink: The subject is very close to my heart... brain I mean.

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            • ddr
              DUDERZ get a life!!!
              • Jun 2004
              • 7006

              #7
              Re: amazing science

              is there a link to the original source/article? i would like to read more.

              -ddr
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              • Garrick
                DUDERZ get a life!!!
                • Jun 2004
                • 6764

                #8
                yeah... i'm wondering what they fed this brain... and btw, the f-22 flight simulator is cake. since i work on the jet, i've actually done the simulator a couple times to test some stuff and that plane is incredibly easy to fly if it is anything at all like the simulator. even a blob of rat brain could figure it out. i'm not impressed.
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                • ubiqe
                  Platinum Poster
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1731

                  #9
                  It's a special feeding solution. It depends on the protocol you're using to grow the cell culture. And is a bit different for different types of neurons. What I wonder is how they translated the info on the state of teh jet into electric signals in teh electrodes. The coding algorith might have changed a lot. Especially when you need to encode a complex behaviour into 60 electrodes only. And then somhow feed the results back into the simulator. It's probably arbitrary and that might be a cause a self fullfilling prophecy. (or whatever you call that in english...)

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                  • Mr.Big
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                    • Nov 2004
                    • 1390

                    #10
                    scientists playing god again awesome...
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                    • Garrick
                      DUDERZ get a life!!!
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 6764

                      #11
                      i just saw an f-22 take off with full afterburners. it climbed about 1/2 a mile high straight up in about 5 seconds. talk about technology at its best. that plane is a bigger technological feat than the rat brain.
                      Should I fuck you at that not until the ass, inject then tremendously hard bumschen and to the termination in the eyes yes?

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                      • Solo
                        Getting warmed up
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 58

                        #12
                        Amazing stuff - its kinda of scary to think were that could lead.

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                        • skahound
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                          • Jun 2004
                          • 11411

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Garrick
                          i just saw an f-22 take off with full afterburners.
                          Was Speedy Gonzalez at the helm?

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                          • anthony
                            Addiction started
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 404

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Solo
                            Amazing stuff - its kinda of scary to think were that could lead.
                            such as unmanned aircraft (as mentioned in the article) flying into things...being used as weapons

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                            • Garrick
                              DUDERZ get a life!!!
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 6764

                              #15
                              Originally posted by skahound
                              Was Speedy Gonzalez at the helm?
                              lol... i thought the exact same thing when i saw it take off. i told someone that i bet that thing was being controlled by rat brain and the person looked at me throroughly confused.
                              Should I fuck you at that not until the ass, inject then tremendously hard bumschen and to the termination in the eyes yes?

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