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  • cosmo
    Gold Gabber
    • Jun 2004
    • 583

    The Ents of Europe

    December 10, 2004
    The Ents of Europe
    Strange rumblings on the continent.
    by Victor Davis Hanson
    National Review Online

    One of the many wondrous peoples that poured forth from the rich imagination of the late J. R. R. Tolkien were the Ents. These tree-like creatures, agonizingly slow and covered with mossy bark, nursed themselves on tales of past glory while their numbers dwindled in their isolation. Unable to reproduce themselves or to fathom the evil outside their peaceful forest - and careful to keep to themselves and avoid reacting to provocation of the tree-cutters and forest burners - they assumed they would be given a pass from the upheavals of Middle Earth.

    But with the sudden arrival of two volatile hobbits, the nearby evils of timber-cutting, industrial devilry, and mass murder became too much for the Ents to stomach. They finally "wake up" (literally). Then they go on the offensive - and are amazed at the power they still wield in destroying Saruman's empire.

    For Tolkien, who wrote in a post-imperial Britain bled white from stopping Prussian militarism and Hitler's Nazism, only to then witness the rise of the more numerous, wealthier, and crasser Americans, such specters were haunting. Indeed, there are variants of the Ent theme throughout Tolkien's novels, from the dormant Riders of Rohan - whose king was exorcised from his dotage and rallied the realm's dwindling cavalry to recover lost glory and save the West - to the hobbits themselves.

    The latter, protected by slurred "Rangers," live blissfully unaware that radical changes in the world have brought evil incarnate to their very doorstep. Then to their amazement they discover that of all people, a hobbit rises to the occasion, and really does stand up well when confronted with apparently far more powerful and evil adversaries. The entire novel is full of such folk - the oath-breaking Dead who come alive to honor their once-broken pact, or the now-fallen and impotent High Elves who nevertheless do their part in the inevitable war to come.

    Tolkien always denied an allegorical motif or any allusions to the contemporary dangers of appeasement or the leveling effects of modernism. And scholars bicker over whether he was lamenting the end of the old England, old Europe, or the old West - in the face of the American democratic colossus, the Soviet Union's tentacles, or the un-chivalrous age of the bomb. But the notion of decline, past glory, and 11th-hour reawakening are nevertheless everywhere in the English philologist's Lord of the Rings. Was he on to something?

    More specifically, does the Ents analogy work for present-day Europe? Before you laugh at the silly comparison, remember that the Western military tradition is European. Today the continent is unarmed and weak, but deep within its collective mind and spirit still reside the ability to field technologically sophisticated and highly disciplined forces - if it were ever to really feel threatened. One murder began to arouse the Dutch; what would 3,000 dead and a toppled Eiffel Tower do to the French? Or how would the Italians take to a plane stuck into the dome of St. Peter? We are nursed now on the spectacle of Iranian mullahs, with their bought weapons and foreign-produced oil wealth, humiliating a convoy of European delegates begging and cajoling them not to make bombs - or at least to point what bombs they make at Israel and not at Berlin or Paris. But it was not always the case, and may not always be.

    The Netherlands was a litmus test for Europe. Unlike Spain or Greece, which had historical grievances against Islam, the Dutch were the avatars of the new liberal Europe, without historical baggage. They were eager to unshackle Europe from the Church, from its class and gender constraints, and from any whiff of its racist or colonialist past. True, for a variety of reasons, Amsterdam may be a case study of how wrong Rousseau was about natural man, but for a Muslim immigrant the country was about as hospitable a foreign host as one can imagine. Thus, it was far safer for radical Islamic fascists to damn the West openly from a mosque in Rotterdam than for a moderate Christian to quietly worship in a church in Saudi Arabia, Iran, or Algeria. And yet we learn not just that the Netherlands has fostered a radical sect of Muslims who will kill and bomb, but, far more importantly, that they will do so after years of residency among, and indeed in utter contempt of, their Western hosts.

    Things are no less humiliating - or dangerous - in France. Thousands of unassimilated Muslims mock French society. Yet their fury shapes its foreign policy to the degree that Jacques Chirac sent a government plane to sweep up a dying Arafat. But then what do we expect from a country that enriched Hamas, let Mrs. Arafat spend her husband's embezzled millions under its nose, gave Khomeini the sanctuary needed to destroy Iran, sold a nuclear reactor to Saddam, is at the heart of the Oil-for-Food scandal, and revs up the Muslim world against the United States?

    Only now are Europeans discovering the disturbing nature of radical Islamic extremism, which thrives not on real grievance but on perceived hurts - and the appeasement of its purported oppressors. How odd that tens of millions of Muslims flocked to Europe for its material consumption, superior standard of living, and freedom and tolerance - and then chose not merely to remain in enclaves but to romanticize all the old pathologies that they had fled from in the first place. It is almost as if the killers in Amsterdam said, "I want your cell phones, unfettered Internet access, and free-spirited girls, but hate the very system that alone can create them all. So please let me stay here to destroy what I want."

    Turkey's proposed entry into the EU has become some weird sort of Swiftian satire on the crazy relationship between Europe and Islam. Ponder the contradictions of it all. Privately most Europeans realize that opening its borders without restraint to Turkey's millions will alter the nature of the EU, both by welcoming in a radically different citizenry, largely outside the borders of Europe, whose population will make it the largest and poorest country in the Union - and the most antithetical to Western liberalism. Yet Europe is also trapped in its own utopian race/class/gender rhetoric. It cannot openly question the wisdom of making the "other" coequal to itself, since one does not by any abstract standard judge, much less censure, customs, religions, or values.

    So it stews and simmers. Not to be outdone, some in Turkey dare the Europeans, almost in contempt, to reject their bid. Thus rather than evolving Attaturk's modernist reforms to match the values of Europe, the country is instead driven into the midst of an Islamic reactionary revival in which its rural east far more resembles Iraq or Iran than Brussels. So the world wonders whether Europe is sticking a toe into the Islamic Middle East or the latter its entire leg into Europe.

    Everyone gets in on the charade. The savvy Greeks discovered that they didn't want to be tarred with the usual anti-Ottoman obstructionism and so are keeping very quiet about their historic worries (legitimate after a near 400-year occupation) as a front-line state. And why not, when EU money pouring into Turkey might jumpstart the Eastern Mediterranean economy and lead to joint Greek-Turkish deals? With the future role of NATO and the 6th Fleet undetermined, is it not better to have the Turkish military inside the tent than for poor Greece to have a neighbor's ships and planes routinely violating Hellenic air and sea sovereignty - while it waits for the Danish air force or the French army to provide a little deterrence in the Aegean or Cyprus?

    Of course, we are amused by the spectacle. Privately, most Americans grasp that with a Germany and France reeling from unassimilated Muslim populations, a rising Islamic-inspired and globally embarrassing anti-Semitism, and economic stagnation, it is foolhardy to create 70 million Turkish Europeans by fiat. Welcoming in Turkey will make the EU so diverse, large, and unwieldy as to make it - to paraphrase Voltaire - neither European nor a Union. Surely Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia will wish to get in on the largess. Were they not, after all, also part of the historical Roman mare nostrum, and did they not also enjoy long ties with France and Italy?

    So, to our discredit I suppose, we are enjoying schadenfreud after our recent transatlantic acrimonies: Europe preached a postmodern gospel of multiculturalism and the end of oppressive Western values, and now it is time to put its money (and security) where its mouth is - or suffer the usual hypocrisy that all limousine liberals face. The United States has its own recent grievances with the Turks - its eleventh-hour refusal to allow American troops to come down from the north explains why the now red-hot Sunni Triangle never saw much war during the three-week fighting. Recently a minister of a country that gave rise to the notion of 20th-century genocide slurred the United States for resembling Hitler, who in fact was an erstwhile Turkish near ally. Still, our realists muse, how convenient that Europe may carry the water in bringing Turkey inside the Western orbit and prevent it from joining the radical Islamic fringe. Knowing it is in our interest (and not necessarily in the Europeans') and will cost them lots and us nothing, we "on principle" remonstrate for the need to show Western empathy to Turkish aspirations.

    But gut-check time is coming for Europe, with its own rising unassimilated immigrant populations, rogue mosques entirely bent on destroying the West, declining birth rate and rising entitlements, the Turkish question, and a foreign policy whose appeasement of Arab regimes won it only a brief lull and plenty of humiliation. The radical Muslim world of the madrassas hates the United States because it is liberal and powerful; but it utterly despises Europe because it is even more liberal and far weaker, earning the continent not fear, but contempt.

    The real question is whether there is any Demosthenes left in Europe, who will soberly but firmly demand assimilation and integration of all immigrants, an end to mosque radicalism, even-handedness in the Middle East, no more subsidies to terrorists like Hamas, a toughness rather than opportunist profiteering with the likes of Assad and the Iranian theocracy - and make it clear that states that aid and abet terrorists in Europe due so to their great peril.

    So will the old Ents awaken, or will they slumber on, muttering nonsense to themselves, lost in past grandeur and utterly clueless about the dangers on their borders?

    Stay tuned - it is one of the most fascinating sagas of our time.
  • Yao
    DUDERZ get a life!!!
    • Jun 2004
    • 8167

    #2
    • 1. Not to be bitchin' but...the issue of integration and assimilation has never been dead around here in the first place.

      2. I didn?t know I was that important? (This is not a joke: My name is Pepijn ? from Pippin, and my brother?s name is Merijn ? from Merry. Damn my parents?) Me and my brother waking up Europe. Schweet.

      3. We are not unarmed and weak, we just concentrated on politics rather than the military.
      Dutch, French and UK special forces are recognized as among the best trained and equipped of the world, no less than the Navy Seals.
      European armies are in a process of co?peration and moving towards partial integration. But if VH likes to see us as weak, that can only be to our advantage.

      4. Sure, all Muslims in the Netherlands are part of the worldwide extremist network. Haven?t met a single moderate Muslim in my life, and all black people here are Ras?Tafari?s.

      5. I don?t think we?re Utopian, and we do question the wisdom of making others coequal to ourselves. VH should try and talk with a few Europeans, if he?s not too afraid to leave the US (The most free and safe country in the world).

      6. Large parts of rural America are even more retarded than rural Turkey.

      7. I?d rather have Turkey in the EU than the US: at least they know how to separate state from religion.

      8. Yes, we do need to put our money and security where our mouths are.

      9. VH: ?But gut-check time is coming for Europe, with its own rising unassimilated immigrant populations, rogue mosques entirely bent on destroying the West, declining birth rate and rising entitlements, the Turkish question, and a foreign policy whose appeasement of Arab regimes won it only a brief lull and plenty of humiliation. The radical Muslim world of the madrassas hates the United States because it is liberal and powerful; but it utterly despises Europe because it is even more liberal and far weaker, earning the continent not fear, but contempt.?

      Whooooww?maybe this is the REAL hotbed for terrorism. Shit?that means..Oh no, it?s the American Imperialistic Oil Sucking Evangelists invading Europe!! And Victor is in the frontline. Hopefully the scope on my Dragunov sniper-rifle has been adjusted?(ok, bad joke).

      So lemme get this straight: we were waging a war against terrorism, right? Now, somehow I see the terms Muslim and terrorist mixed and mingled in this piece without making the differentiation between them.
      I must have been lucky: I pass by a mosque every day going to school, but I didn?t catch a molotov just yet. Maybe the Imam smiling and returning my greets is secretly planning a really nice public beheading for me?


    It?s interesting to see where all this is going, no doubt, but I don?t really like VH speaking of Europa as if it were a zoo, filled with monkeys staging an ?amusing spectacle?. Has this guy ever set foot outside the US? Give me 5 more years of study, and I'll flame anything he has to say on this.

    But I guess you knew I would take the bait eh, Cosmo?

    I can't help it, I'm a Compulsive Liberal Poster. Kinda political Pataky P?l.
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    • davetlv
      Platinum Poster
      • Jun 2004
      • 1205

      #3
      Originally posted by Yao
      I can't help it, I'm a Compulsive Liberal Poster. Kinda political Pataky P?l.
      One of the funniest things i've heard for a while!

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      • thesightless
        Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
        • Jun 2004
        • 13567

        #4
        either way, someone read way too much into a great fantasy epic that was geared to children and young adults
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        • Yao
          DUDERZ get a life!!!
          • Jun 2004
          • 8167

          #5
          Hmm...
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          • mixu
            Travel Guru Extraordinaire
            • Jun 2004
            • 1115

            #6
            Re: The Ents of Europe

            I'm not gonna even begin to respond to this... I've got better things to do like, er, make a cup of coffee.

            Read this yesterday though which I'll post instead.

            Europe must open its doors to Turkey

            The vote that will transform the EU

            Leader
            Sunday December 12, 2004
            The Observer

            European Heads of state will this week meet to decide whether Turkey, an Islamic country of 80 million, should be allowed to apply for full membership of the European Union. It is an epic and fateful decision that will transform the character of the EU either way. If the answer is no, the EU is confirmed as a Christian club within its current borders; if yes, the EU's poorest and most populous country will be predominantly Muslim, with profound implications for EU spending and policy.

            The European Commission has recommended that Turkey, an associate member of the EU since the early 1960s, should begin the long and tortuous business of transition to full membership - a process that could take at least 10 if not 20 years. But agreement is not a foregone conclusion. France has said that it will put any final agreement to a referendum; leading German and Dutch Christian Democrats, mindful that it has proved difficult to integrate their own Islamic citizens, fear the impact of mass immigration of poor Turks throughout the EU. Rather than build bridges to Islam, Turkish membership could promote Islamophobia.

            They are right to be concerned and British advocates of Turkish membership are wrong not to acknowledge the dangers. Britain, too, has had problems integrating Muslim immigrants. Although Turkey west of the Bosphorus, Istanbul included, is thoroughly secular and embraces Ataturk's reforms dividing church and state, the Eastern part of the country is prey to the regressive forces of Islamic fundamentalism. And Europe's governing elites may baulk at transferring billions of Euros to raise the living standards of tens of millions of peasants or at the pressure on jobs of a wave of cheap immigrant labour following EU membership. The evidence is that Turkey's membership will be a very hard sell.

            But Europe must take this risk, as the upheavals in Ukraine show. Viktor Yuschenko, the Ukrainian opposition leader, has said he wants Ukraine to become a full member of the EU - and that the popular demonstration in favour of democracy and the rule of law shows that this is where the people's hearts also lie.

            The same is true of Turkey. The best (perhaps only) guarantee that the EU will have stable, democratic, liberal capitalist neighbours and not failed states or havens of terrorism is the lure of membership of the EU club. This is also the best retort to Britain's xenophobic eurosceptics. Europe is partly a network of nation states and partly a supranational authority that works for the good of all. Turkey and the Ukraine want in. The EU should welcome them.
            Ask me a question...

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            • cosmo
              Gold Gabber
              • Jun 2004
              • 583

              #7
              Originally posted by Yao
              • 1. Not to be bitchin' but...the issue of integration and assimilation has never been dead around here in the first place.

                2. I didn?t know I was that important? (This is not a joke: My name is Pepijn ? from Pippin, and my brother?s name is Merijn ? from Merry. Damn my parents?) Me and my brother waking up Europe. Schweet.

                3. We are not unarmed and weak, we just concentrated on politics rather than the military.
                Dutch, French and UK special forces are recognized as among the best trained and equipped of the world, no less than the Navy Seals.
                European armies are in a process of co?peration and moving towards partial integration. But if VH likes to see us as weak, that can only be to our advantage.

                4. Sure, all Muslims in the Netherlands are part of the worldwide extremist network. Haven?t met a single moderate Muslim in my life, and all black people here are Ras?Tafari?s.

                5. I don?t think we?re Utopian, and we do question the wisdom of making others coequal to ourselves. VH should try and talk with a few Europeans, if he?s not too afraid to leave the US (The most free and safe country in the world).

                6. Large parts of rural America are even more retarded than rural Turkey.

                7. I?d rather have Turkey in the EU than the US: at least they know how to separate state from religion.

                8. Yes, we do need to put our money and security where our mouths are.

                9. VH: ?But gut-check time is coming for Europe, with its own rising unassimilated immigrant populations, rogue mosques entirely bent on destroying the West, declining birth rate and rising entitlements, the Turkish question, and a foreign policy whose appeasement of Arab regimes won it only a brief lull and plenty of humiliation. The radical Muslim world of the madrassas hates the United States because it is liberal and powerful; but it utterly despises Europe because it is even more liberal and far weaker, earning the continent not fear, but contempt.?

                Whooooww?maybe this is the REAL hotbed for terrorism. Shit?that means..Oh no, it?s the American Imperialistic Oil Sucking Evangelists invading Europe!! And Victor is in the frontline. Hopefully the scope on my Dragunov sniper-rifle has been adjusted?(ok, bad joke).

                So lemme get this straight: we were waging a war against terrorism, right? Now, somehow I see the terms Muslim and terrorist mixed and mingled in this piece without making the differentiation between them.
                I must have been lucky: I pass by a mosque every day going to school, but I didn?t catch a molotov just yet. Maybe the Imam smiling and returning my greets is secretly planning a really nice public beheading for me?


              It?s interesting to see where all this is going, no doubt, but I don?t really like VH speaking of Europa as if it were a zoo, filled with monkeys staging an ?amusing spectacle?. Has this guy ever set foot outside the US? Give me 5 more years of study, and I'll flame anything he has to say on this.

              But I guess you knew I would take the bait eh, Cosmo?

              I can't help it, I'm a Compulsive Liberal Poster. Kinda political Pataky P?l.


              From reading your comments, you seem to have no grip of where VDH comes from in regards to history and international politics. He speaks of Europe as a zoo, because the politicians are acting like animals, and can't seem to get it.

              btw, he has traveled through Europe several times, and has many friends that he frequents, as stated in several interviews.

              Plus, he comes from a family that immigrated from Europe.

              He's more in tune with Europe than you think. Read a few of his books, and you just might notice.

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              • cosmo
                Gold Gabber
                • Jun 2004
                • 583

                #8
                Re: The Ents of Europe

                A taste of who he is, and where his ideals come from.


                What philosophic traditions and ideas do you find attractive and so live by? I detect some structural-functionalist foundations, a dose of yeoman pragmatism, and a classical sense of civic 'exceptionalism,' but there is also something else that I can't quite put my finger on. Perhaps, an Aristotelian...?

                Hanson: I don?t have any conscious blueprint of thought. Although as I grow older I realize that three more or less constant ideas have guided most of what I wrote and believed. (1) I grew up and live on a farm, and was early on given a strong dose of what you call pragmatism, along with a deep suspicion of intellectual airs and pretension. My parents made us work hard, and when I took over the farm I learned immediately the difference between theory and reality, especially when the farmer pays through the nose for any of his own mistakes. I tried to outline this world view in The Land Was Everything and Fields Without Dreams?a sense that action, not talk, is what ultimately matters.

                (2) As a classicist, I read for about 8 years as an undergraduate and graduate student, both here and in Greece, pretty much just Greek and Latin literature?especially Thucydides, Homer, Sophocles, Euripides, Aristophanes, and Tacitus, Livy, Caesar, Juvenal, Horace, and Petronius. My special exam authors at Stanford were Aristophanes and Petronius, and from all that I learned to appreciate irony and satire, and not to take one's self too seriously. But above all, Classics gave me a sense of the tragic, of the innate limitations that we as humans face, and a deep suspicion of all who say that with enough money or education they can change the nature of mankind. Civilization's role is to ameliorate our innate savagery, and to guide such energy into productive and humane channels. That is success enough in such a brief span on earth. And of course, Classics teaches a method?not just of prose expression and clarity in thought, but also that knowledge is not finite, but rather can be systematically investigated by examining all source material in a professional way.

                (3) Finally, growing up in the San Joaquin Valley, out here on the farm, and with parents and grandparents who were veterans, as well as a mother who was a State judge, I grew to appreciate deeply the United States, and especially its constitution, values, and optimism, na?ve though that sometimes could be. My parents and grandparents almost weekly reminded me of how fortunate we were to be Americans, and how unusual this experiment of the United States really was.

                I hope all that is of some help. Of all the authors I have read who seem the most resonant, it is Thucydides and perhaps Aristotle as well, especially his Politics, and his methodological examination of all possible alternatives without emotion or prejudice?and his blunt honesty in assessing what he takes as the truth.

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                • Yao
                  DUDERZ get a life!!!
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 8167

                  #9
                  Well, the first two things really mark him as an admireable thinker and pragmatist, but the third is almost discarding everything he has written on international politics, see what I mean? His thinking is almost completely US-centered, insomuch that he doesn't recognize any other way and is so actively anti-Europe that he clings to -what he perceives as American values- too much to really be able to go into a discussion.

                  How can I discuss with someone who is so firmly attached to his own set of values that he doesn't even bother to look at something from a different angle?

                  I may be a liberal, but I refuse to take one stance as my only truth. There's more than just talking, there's also more than just shooting.
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                  • cosmo
                    Gold Gabber
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 583

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Yao
                    Well, the first two things really mark him as an admireable thinker and pragmatist, but the third is almost discarding everything he has written on international politics, see what I mean? His thinking is almost completely US-centered, insomuch that he doesn't recognize any other way and is so actively anti-Europe that he clings to -what he perceives as American values- too much to really be able to go into a discussion.

                    How can I discuss with someone who is so firmly attached to his own set of values that he doesn't even bother to look at something from a different angle?

                    I may be a liberal, but I refuse to take one stance as my only truth. There's more than just talking, there's also more than just shooting.

                    Just because he mentions that part in regards to how he leads his life doesn't mean that that particular statement itself affects the way he looks at international policy.

                    He just said that because he notices that we are living in the greatest country on Earth. And he was reminded so by his parents and grandparents.

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                    • Yao
                      DUDERZ get a life!!!
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 8167

                      #11
                      Yeah I get that, but haven't you noticed the influence of that on his political thinking? Because that's exactly what I see, but hey: I was raised on the other side of the ocean, so maybe I couldn't see it any different from here...
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                      There are but three true sports -- bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor-racing. The rest are merely games. -Hemingway

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                      • cosmo
                        Gold Gabber
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 583

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Yao
                        Yeah I get that, but haven't you noticed the influence of that on his political thinking? Because that's exactly what I see, but hey: I was raised on the other side of the ocean, so maybe I couldn't see it any different from here...

                        Is it not okay to notice that Europe has been drenched by a sea of utopianism? A utopian way of thinking that has destroyed societies in the past?

                        He is a democrat by the way, just not a far lefty.

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