Arrogant Americans Views On Canada

[runningman]

were not saying its free. I'm sure its coming from the oil that we pum out of Alberta. But either way its free to me and we have a surplus so that at any moment we can fix it. If we want to be in debt like you guys our hospitals would have gold walls and diamond studed pencils.

[cosmo]

were not saying its free. I'm sure its coming from the oil that we pum out of Alberta. But either way its free to me and we have a surplus so that at any moment we can fix it. If we want to be in debt like you guys our hospitals would have gold walls and diamond studed pencils.

A surplus? I hear that you have to wait several months to have procedures done. Why are people coming into America to have procedures done?

[runningman]

surplus - as opposed to debt.. money we have when we need to use it..

Several months for which surgeries.. any life threatning it isn't long at all. also our PM just granted $2 billion for health ccare just a coup[le of weeks ago. so we are fixing the problem and as long as we keep having a surplus because you guys keep buying our raw materials we will be able to fix it hopefully within the next couple of years. For instance my local hospital at the moment has a multi million dollar expansion going as we speak. there is a problem right now i agree but we are addressing it..

[thesightless]

the real problem with canadian healthcare isnt withthe system, its with the doctors. they can make a ton more money in america so they usually come here if they are a top specialist. my aunt is a director at long island jewish health care. they get doc from all over.

[Yao]

Same here...

You might advocate leaving the health care sector to the market, but as a result prices and insurance rates have gone up, too. That's why so many people don't have the money to pay for medical care.

My father has been travelling the world as a medic in the offshore industry for as long as I'm around, and even longer, and he was shocked only twice: In the slums of Bombay, and in the south of the US.
He had boys my age working on a ship being mentally underdeveloped and thus not qualified, or for instance a guy wit a metal plate in his head and limping, stil recovering from an accident. They both had to work to pay their medical bills while not even up o the job, for crying out loud...

State influence should not be omnipresent, but sometimes is for the better. Keeps your people healthy, for instance...

Education and Health care are sectors not to be touched by the market, states should be responsible for those and the levels in those sectors.

[neoee]

I agree with platinum: health care can be the best in the world, but what good is it when you can't pay for it?

When comparing Canada and the US in terms of health care, I'm not so sure we have "the best". We have doctors that wouldn't even have been able to make it into Canadian medical schools due to their low scores. And in the States, Mom and Dad were able to make a "donation" to the school and suddenly junior was admitted.

Also keep in mind that Canada pays 70% of their tuition, so you going to get a larger number of applicants and you can then choose the cream of the crop.

[Yao]

Well, that sure makes a difference I guess...and also: privatization of health care means on one side cost-effective policies, but on the other hand that hospitals for instance will try to keep costs low, which may result in the use of equipment of inferior quality, cutting on expenses for equipment or personell (which increases the pressure on the medical staff) and things like that.

When people's live are at stake and you really care about them, you should guarantee quality of care, not leave that quality to the market.

[superdave]

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i'm all the way south in tx and most people i know including myself don't have a negative opinion of canada. i wouldn't mind visiting canada some day. i heard some of the cities there are quite nice.

[runningman]

hey dave when you come bring some of your southern women.. .. I met about 20 women from Texas when i was in cancun and they are Hot..

[ANUBIS]

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Can i have the one that looks like Jessica Alba ?

[day_for_night]

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All about the money? Who cares? That process has led us to have the highest standard of health care in the world.

The greedy accusation is a lame argument if you ask me.

thats so bloody laughable i dont know where to start. FORTY PERCENT of americans DONT have health coverage; how exactly is that the best health care in the world?? you might have the best doctors, but nearly half your population never gets to see them.

[Jenks]

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^i do!


So what's better, shitty health care for everyone? or excellent healthcare for those that can afford it?

Neither really, but given an option, i'll pay for really good care.

[Yao]

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A lot of people disagree with you on that one Jenks, especially those that cannot afford it.

Best would be health care for everyone, but for just once financially managed well byt the government. IMO some thing should be kept out of the commercial realm, and health care is one of them. It is fucking ridiculous that people should be coughing up money for the rest of their lives if by an unfortunate event they have to apply for medical treatment.

However...I am in favour of rewarding those with a healthy lifestyle vs those that have habits that make them a bloody liability (smokers, drinkers, basejumpers etc.). I'm not about to pay for an asshole that deems it necessary to fuck up his own body at my expense.

[rewing3]

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I live in the states and I think canada is a very beautiful country. They do a lot for there citizens and the immigrants that live there unlike in the states were everyone is on there own for the most part. The only thing I would not like if I lived in canada is the fact that the gov't controls your medical insurance. So it can sometime take a while to visit a dr. but canada does not have the stupid lawsuits all the time either. I would live in canada if I could find a job. This just shows how dumb some poeple in america are. Believe me as an american it piss me off just as much. Dumb people should be shot.

[dig72]

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In Australia, health care for the entire nation is paid for by the tax payer.
The system works fine, you may have to wait a while for non emergency procedures or to see a Dr but at least you won't be told to piss of and die because you don't have any $$$$. There is private health care for those who can afford it and want it, but it's not forced upon us.

I do not for the life of me, ever want to see a person getting refused health care in my country on the basis that he or she cannot afford it or does not have any money.

If it means we have to pay higher taxes, then so be it. This option is way cheaper for the tax payer than having to pay unreasonable amounts of $$$$ every month/year for private health insurance that you hardly/never use.