Question

[cosmo]

Why does the media send its full attention to the 120,000+ dead from a natural disaster, when 1,000,000+ are being slaughtered in Sudan?

I guess it's harder to take a moral stance on a pack of evil individuals, who knows? Is there more emotion?

I'm seeing no media coverage of the slaughter in Sudan. It's absent.

[Yao]

Beats me man. It's easier to get people to give with such an emotional thing, Sudan has been around for, like, forever...and even I wouldn't give shit to those a-holes unless they first stop killing each other.

I read that the UN has frozen all financial aid to Sudan because of the killings: why the hell did they receive money in the first place? That would've better spent sending peacekeeping troops with a mandate that gives them the right to enforce peace (that is: use their bloody guns instead of petting them).

Stupid.

[DaStottman]

Easy: There are no interests in Africa. That's why you rarely hear any other reporting of things going on in Africa.

[Yao]

Believe me, there are enough interests in Africa...it's not being plundered for nothing.

[brakada]

Well, I think it's hard to compare the dead people in Sudan to the victims of Tsunami, cause both tragedies were caused by very different reasons. While Tsunami was an inevitable natural disaster, the Sudanese conflict has a long history and is caused by the people itself. I think the problem with Africa is that most of the nations/tribes/groups simply can not put aside their differences and hatred, so the conflicts "never" end and my guess is that Africa (at least most of it) will still need a century or two to "mature" and realise that war is not the way. But until the African people realise that, the rest of the world simply won't care...

But to get back to cosmo's question (I'll answer it with another question): Why did the US invade Iraq, where the number of killed civilians is a lot lower than in Sudan, when they could be "bringing peace and democracy" to Sudan? :wink:

[Mr.Big]

yeah u anwsered it..all that shit in africa is aload of wank..they'll never learn and thats why theres no media coverage cause no one cares..

As far as the the Asia Tsunami thing goes..im interested in it as my mates were over in phuket about 3weeks ago and thank fully moved on too Oz...

Yeah and that jizzface Bob Geldoff should give the money from band Aid 20 to the victims of the Tsunami.

[thesightless]

frankly its sad but true. africa unfortunetly doesnt offer much economically. thats why the leading nations tend to toss thier problems aside more often than not. geographicaclly it is hard to populate in terms of actually making major cities/commercial oppurtunites in most areas :?

[Mr.Big]

ur right, but they only have themselves to blame... they act like animals with guns so why should the world take them seriously...

I was goin give money to the band aid thing but my mate swayed me saying...how is the country still in the shit after 20 years of aid? WTF are they playin at over there...its the stupid fuckin rebels goin around stopping progress..

Im far more interested in helping developing countrys for example the ones that got hit by the tsunami...thats where my money is goin..

[Yao]

Problem with Africa is hat this so-called tribalism is inherited from the colonial period. It was part of the divide-and rule tactics, and is still working into society until this day.

A perfect example of this is the genocides in Rwanda

Combine this with the unnatural borders we have drawn, and you've got the perfect ingredients for everlasting problems on the continent. I personally think governments should rely more on the traditional hierarchical structures, which still have more legitimacy even now. That is partially how South Africa has managed to get through such a difficult political transition.

I did an extensive paper on the genocides in Rwanda, and have since then even learnt more about it. The whole story is fucking disturbing, and the role of UN AID and NGO's is really big in it...this case has proven to me that the UN is ready for a big organisational overhaul, and NGO's are just vultures living off the continent instead of helping it.

A girlfriend of mine, whom I spoke to today, was in Ivory coast when the troubles started there, she has been in danger of getting dragged out onto the streets and getting raped and murdered, and man, she told me some disturbing stuff today, that has backed up my opinion. Working for an NGO herself she has become increasingly disillusioned by the way they handle things...

[Yao]

And by the way: at this moment it is in fact the rebels going for a change for the good in most cases, not the government. Those are usually sucking the people dry...pretty logical when owning the state is the best way to guarantee income.

[Mr.Big]

Yao For them to pull a woman out on the streets and rape her has nothing to do with what state there country is in... to me it shows how simple minded these people are who dont think for themselves and follow the pack..

i agree that it has alot to do with the Un but i still think there thick bastards, if they wanted to stop it all they would sort it out between themselves...

[Yao]

Yao For them to pull a woman out on the streets and rape her has nothing to do with what state there country is in... to me it shows how simple minded these people are who dont think for themselves and follow the pack..

i agree that it has alot to do with the Un but i still think there thick bastards, if they wanted to stop it all they would sort it out between themselves...

I've never seen things like that happen in times of peace....and I've seen it happen all around the globe in times of war. It is not exclusive tot he African continent, it happened on a large scale in Bosnia/Serbia/Croatia as well. So please don't condemn a whole people on something like this, althoug I assume you didn't mean it like that. :wink:

[brakada]

I don't like generalizing, but I still believe that most of Africa is rather uncivilised and still behaves and thinks like it did 1000s of years ago and things like mentioned before happen there a bit more often than on other continents. It's true that rapes and plunder happen in almost every war, but the problem with Africa is, that there are always a couple of countries which are at war. And if not, you can always find a couple of countries where there's a civil war going on.

The problem with Africa's natural resources is, that most of the discovered ones (personally I believe there are still a lot of undiscovered ones) are already in the hands of western corporations which continue to "plunder" the black continent.

[Mr.Big]

^i agree with what ur sayin, as far as western countrys taking there resources...fair enough i say at least someone is getting good from them...

[brakada]

I really hope, you're joking... :?