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  • chunky
    Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
    • Jan 2006
    • 10548

    Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

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    Reports and reaction as it happens after Israeli commandos storm a convoy of ships carrying aid to Gaza.


    Live coverage of events, after Israeli commandos storm a convoy of boats carrying aid to Gaza, showing latest developments with breaking news and comment from BBC correspondents. All times BST.

    1135:
    French President Nicolas Sarkozy accuses Israel of a "disproportionate use of force".

    1131:
    UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon says he is "shocked by reports of killings and injuries" on the flotilla and says it is vital that Israel carries out a full investigation.

    1129:
    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is to cut short an official trip to Canada and Washington, Israeli radio reports.

    1125:
    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is to cut short an official trip to Latin America to deal with the political fallout of the Israeli action.
    Turkey says it is recalling its ambassador from Tel Aviv.

    1122:
    The BBC's Natalia Antelava in Beirut says many people have taken to streets in Beirut and are protesting in front of the United Nations building.

    1115:
    Ambassadors from European Union's 27 member states are to hold emergency talks in Brussels on the Israeli operation.

    1105: The BBC's Tim Franks in Jerusalem says:
    More details are emerging about the Israeli version of what happened on the boat.
    Yochanan Plessner, member of the Israeli parliament and former navy commando himself, says that the moment Israeli commandos boarded the boat they were attacked by spikes, metal rods, and live ammunition.
    He said: "They were actually thrown down the different levels of the ship. Basically the Israeli soldiers who came for policing type activity were lynched."

    1058:
    Turkey's foreign ministry calls for an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council over Israel's military operation.

    1056:
    Frank Barat of the Russell Tribunal for Palestine tells the BBC he has several friends onboard ships in the flotilla and is concerned for their welfare.
    Briton Sarah Colborne, the director of the Palestine Solidarity campaign in London was last heard from at 2300 on Sunday, speaking live via a webcast from the Turkish ship that was intercepted.
    Mr Barat says another friend, Ewa Jasiewicz, who is part of the Free Gaza movement, was on board one of the smaller ships.

    1055:
    Nabil Amr, an adviser to Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas, condemns Israel's actions:
    "The Palestinian Authority cannot let what happened go unnoticed.
    "What happened is merely an international cry that does not carry any aggression or a violation of any borders; it is only a strong humanitarian call addressed to the world to end this unjust siege against our people in the Gaza Strip," he tells broadcaster al-Jazeera.

    1052:
    Wallander author Henning Mankell is among those believed to be on board the ships to Gaza.

    1045:
    Israel's Channel 10 TV says 19 activists were killed and 26 wounded.

    1030: The BBC's Malcolm Brabant in Athens says:
    Greece has withdrawn from joint military exercises with Israel in protest at the attack on the Gaza flotilla.
    Athens has also barred the head of the Israeli airforce from flying to Greece.
    The Greeks have long had warm relations with the Palestinians and are furious with the Israelis for carrying out this raid in international waters.
    The Israeli ambassador to Athens was called into the foreign ministry to provide an explanation. The deputy foreign minister, Dhimitris Droutsas, demanded assurances about the wellbeing of 30 Greeks who were on board ships in the flotilla.
    Mr Yahya was told in no uncertain terms that Greece held Israel responsible for their safety. One of the vessels currently being escorted by the Israelis towards the port of Ashdod is sailing under a Greek flag.

    1012:
    French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner says he is "deeply shocked" by the Israeli action and calls for an inquiry.

    1010:
    The first of the six ships in the flotilla dock in Ashdod, Israel.

    1009:
    Thousands of Turkish protesters march in Istanbul to denounce Israel.

    0945:
    Turkish foreign ministry warns Israel of irreparable damage to bilateral ties.
    "This deplorable incident, which took place in open seas and constitutes a fragrant breach of international law, may lead to irreparable consequences in our bilateral relations," a statement read.

    0930:
    The Arab League calls an emergency meeting on 1 June to discuss Israel's "terrorist act" against the flotilla.

    0925:
    Sweden summons the Israeli ambassador to Stockholm over the "unacceptable" action.

    0910:
    The Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, Daniel Ayalon, blamed the organisers for the violence, saying they were linked to terrorist organisations.
    "The armada of hate and violence in support of Hamas terror organisation was a premeditated and outrageous provocation.
    "The organisers are well known for their ties with global Jihad, al-Qaeda and Hamas. They have a history of arms smuggling and deadly terror.
    "On board the ship we found weapons prepared in advance and used against our forces. The organisers intent was violent, their method was violent and the results were unfortunately violent. Israel regrets any loss of life and did everything to avoid this outcome."

    0900: The BBC's Tim Franks in Jerusalem says:
    After the funerals and after the rage Israel will face two big questions: if, as Israeli officials insist, they are happy to channel all this aid into Gaza via Israeli ports - including the building materials which it claims Hamas could put to military ends - then what's the point of the blockade?
    And how far can it continue to stick to the line that "there are no shortages in Gaza", when the United Nations, among others, describes the humanitarian situation as "grim" and "deteriorating"?

    0845: Audrey Bomse of the Free Gaza movement, which organised the convoy, tells the BBC:
    "I can tell you that there were no firearms - all the boats were carefully inspected by the government before they left the port of departure.
    "You can't hide a firearm; I suppose you can hide a knife, but there's no evidence there was shooting, there was live streaming coming from the boats.
    "You don't see any fire going past the Israelis, you see them coming out of helicopters and shooting immediately."

    0830: The BBC's Wyre Davies in Ashdod, Israel, says:
    An Israeli army spokesman said the activists refused an order not to go to Gaza with their boats laden with humanitarian aid and instead dock at the Israeli port of Ashdod.
    The army says its troops were attacked by the activists with axes, knives and firearms.
    At least four Israeli marines were injured, said a spokeswoman, including one who was shot when his gun was snatched by an activist.
    There's now a state of alert across Israel.

    0812: Israeli spokesman Mark Regev speaks to the BBC's Today programme:


    0800: The BBC's Jon Donnison in Gaza City says:
    Israel had warned it was going to use limited force to stop the flotilla. It seems to have used more than that.
    Television pictures from on board the ships show Israeli armed commandos storming the boats.
    You can hear what sounds like gun shots and a number of people can be seen lying on the deck, apparently injured.
    It took place around 60km out to sea in international waters. An Israeli government minister expressed regret for any loss of life.
    Israel has said it will tow the ships to Ashdod where a special passport and detention centre has been set up.
    It says from there the activists will be deported.

    0745:
    Hamas leader Ismail Haniya says of the activists: "You were heroes, whether you reached [Gaza] or not."

    0730: The BBC's Jonathan Head in Istanbul, Turkey, says:
    Within hours of the first clashes between Israeli forces and the Gaza bound convoy the Turkish government issued a strongly-worded condemnation of the Israeli actions.
    Once again Israel has shown that it ignores human rights and peaceful initiatives, read the statement from the foreign ministry.
    It accused Israel of violating international law by using such force on the high seas, and said its actions could have irrevocable consequences for relations with Turkey.
    The main organiser of the convoy is a Turkish-based Islamic charity and most of the activists on board are Turkish citizens.
    If the reports of large numbers of casualties are confirmed, relations between Turkey and Israel, already badly strained over the blockade of Gaza, will plunge to a new low.
    Originally posted by res0nat0r
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  • dig72
    Gold Gabber
    • Nov 2004
    • 882

    #2
    Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

    Murdering unarmed civilians, shamelessly for the whole world to see, sound familiar?

    israeli leaders and their "supporters" will be the cause of israels inevitable downfall.
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
    Marcus Tullius Cicero

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    • ace_dl
      Platinum Poster
      • Jun 2004
      • 1546

      #3
      Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

      What a tragedy that is!

      According to Israel's private channel 10 television, Israeli marine commandos had opened fire after being attacked with axes and knives by a number of the passengers on board the aid ships, the television said, without giving the source of its information.
      Wtf? Even if they were attacked with knives and axes, does that justify such a reaction?
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      • 88Mariner
        My dick is smaller
        • Nov 2006
        • 7128

        #4
        Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

        Originally posted by ace_dl
        What a tragedy that is!



        Wtf? Even if they were attacked with knives and axes, does that justify such a reaction?

        i don't know. you tell me. I suppose you would have preferred this had been axes vs. unarmed combat?

        What bothers me most about this is that of the six boat flotilla, FIVE out of the six vessels did not respond violently to the Israeli soldiers, there were ZERO casualties/injuries on those vessels.

        How come that only the ship which attacked soldiers suffered casualties?

        The mission of this flotilla was successful. They rejected the offer for peaceful passage of the aid over land because it would help the palestinians without controversy. And controversy is precisely what the aid convoy wanted. And they got it.



        edit:

        LOL @ 'the world' condemning israel. it would have condemned israel if it had basically touched any part of the aid package at any point in time for any reason at all.
        you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

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        • davetlv
          Platinum Poster
          • Jun 2004
          • 1205

          #5
          Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

          From the world that brought you "Jenin The Massacre" and the "Al-Dura Affair" now comes in full color, "Gaza Flotilla, The Massacre"; coming to your MSM as we speak.

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          • runningman
            Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
            • Jun 2004
            • 5995

            #6
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            • Kiff
              Getting Somewhere
              • Oct 2006
              • 222

              #7
              Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

              I admit, I was quick to condemn Israel for this action, but now I can't say the IDF wasn't justified after seeing this.... unarmed civilians my ass:



              This wasn't about "humanitarian aid", it was a political move to put Israel in a crack, and it worked. If this was a "peaceful" flotilla with nothing to hide, they would have had no problem with being boarded and inspected, or better yet, if they would have went to port as instructed, this would have never happened.
              “Only those who attempt the absurd...will achieve the impossible. I think...I think it's in my basement... Let me go upstairs and check.” - MC Escher

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              • DIDI
                Aussie Pest
                • Nov 2004
                • 16844

                #8
                Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

                ^^^ It's both , it is humanitarian aid and it is political. This needs to be brought to the eyes of the world. For me this all gets back to what the hell gives Israel any right to board any ship!!
                Originally posted by TheVrk
                it IS incredible isn't it??
                STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
                Simply does not get any better than Hernan
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                • dig72
                  Gold Gabber
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 882

                  #9
                  Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

                  How did we get here?

                  Occupation, don't say it too loudly.
                  “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
                  Marcus Tullius Cicero

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                  • dig72
                    Gold Gabber
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 882

                    #10
                    Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

                    Originally posted by Kiff
                    I admit, I was quick to condemn Israel for this action, but now I can't say the IDF wasn't justified after seeing this.... unarmed civilians my ass:
                    Those on board the ship had everyright to attack those "idf" crackpots. What sort of response did you expect?

                    A welcome mat, perhaps even roses?
                    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
                    Marcus Tullius Cicero

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                    • davetlv
                      Platinum Poster
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1205

                      #11
                      Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

                      Originally posted by DIDI
                      ^^^ It's both , it is humanitarian aid and it is political. This needs to be brought to the eyes of the world. For me this all gets back to what the hell gives Israel any right to board any ship!!
                      Such a stupid question which would have been cleared up straight away with a little search on google.

                      San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea (12 June 1994)
                      “It is permissible under rule 67(a) to attack neutral vessels on the high seas when the vessels “are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture.

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                      • dig72
                        Gold Gabber
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 882

                        #12
                        Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

                        It is also very legal to defend yourself from cowards such as the "idf" from boarding your ship.

                        The "idf" are experts at killing unarmed men, woman and children. They've been doing it for years.
                        “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
                        Marcus Tullius Cicero

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                        • DIDI
                          Aussie Pest
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 16844

                          #13
                          Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

                          Originally posted by davetlv
                          Such a stupid question which would have been cleared up straight away with a little search on google.

                          San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea (12 June 1994)
                          “It is permissible under rule 67(a) to attack neutral vessels on the high seas when the vessels “are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture.
                          Well that's the excuse anyway. !! I am so sick of seeing smarmy men making pathetic, transparently false, statements. Defending themselves!! Give us a fucking break!! The weapons were bars and chairs, against men defending from helicopters armed with sub machines.

                          We in Australia have this absurd situation where two of our journalists , firstly were not acknowledged as being journalists despite being acclaimed worldwide as such, abducted off international waters, taken into detention and are apparently charged with illegally entering the country. ??? How fucking stupid is that ???
                          I'm watching Barak at the moment . What a fucking joke. !!



                          Btw You just added credibility to a comment I made about you in a previous post.
                          Originally posted by TheVrk
                          it IS incredible isn't it??
                          STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
                          Simply does not get any better than Hernan
                          The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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                          • davetlv
                            Platinum Poster
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 1205

                            #14
                            Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

                            Originally posted by DIDI
                            Well that's the excuse anyway. !! I am so sick of seeing smarmy men making pathetic, transparently false, statements. Defending themselves!! Give us a fucking break!! The weapons were bars and chairs, against men defending from helicopters armed with sub machines.

                            We in Australia have this absurd situation where two of our journalists , firstly were not acknowledged as being journalists despite being acclaimed worldwide as such, abducted off international waters, taken into detention and are apparently charged with illegally entering the country. ??? How fucking stupid is that ???
                            I'm watching Barak at the moment . What a fucking joke. !!



                            Btw You just added credibility to a comment I made about you in a previous post.
                            Right so now that I have quoted international law with you you change track to firstly attacking me and then posting lies. I dont know what access you have to news where you are but northing I have read or heard has the Israelis dropping down from helicopters armed with sub-machine guns. Maybe you have more recent news, so a link to that would be grand, otherwise its just a lie, isn't it.

                            According to reports Israelis landed on the main boat armed with nothing more that paint ball guns, something they use when peaceful protests are expected during anti-fence demos, and holstered hand guns - not sub machine guns. Considering that every time a member of this supposed humainitarian group spoke prior to the 'mission' leaving dock these people claimed to be prepared to peacefully block the israelis, they sprouted that under no circumstance would they use force, therefore the Israelis were not sporting sub or other types of machine guns.

                            But I guess you're not interested in facts are you. Yes we all know it was a stupid attempt by the Israelis, and yes anyone with a working brain cell could hvae told them that some elements of people on board, and i believe it to be only some, were preparing themselves for a fight, so different tactics might have been considered, but seriously DIDI do you have to resort to either personal attacks or lies in this discussion.

                            I know the are some people on this board who will always jump at attacking Israel and thats fair enough but do you and others here really have to fabricate things as well?

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                            • chunky
                              Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 10548

                              #15
                              Re: Israeli raid on Gaza flotilla

                              Originally posted by davetlv
                              Right so now that I have quoted international law with you you change track to firstly attacking me and then posting lies. I dont know what access you have to news where you are but northing I have read or heard has the Israelis dropping down from helicopters armed with sub-machine guns. Maybe you have more recent news, so a link to that would be grand, otherwise its just a lie, isn't it.

                              According to reports Israelis landed on the main boat armed with nothing more that paint ball guns, something they use when peaceful protests are expected during anti-fence demos, and holstered hand guns - not sub machine guns. Considering that every time a member of this supposed humainitarian group spoke prior to the 'mission' leaving dock these people claimed to be prepared to peacefully block the israelis, they sprouted that under no circumstance would they use force, therefore the Israelis were not sporting sub or other types of machine guns
                              Seems Amnesty International don't share your view on the legality of the blockade. You guys use paint ball guns at peaceful protests

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                              Originally posted by res0nat0r
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