Windows antispyware (beta)

[barkup]

Anyone tried this yet?

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

[picklemonkey]

sounds like another Adaware or SpyBot alternative. I'll give it a try, but doubt it'll compare until it's wayy out of beta

[skahound]

So if MS final versions act as shitty as they do, what can I expect from a MS beta?

[Anonymous]

I cant trust MS stuff, there trying to take to much control of your computer. Sp2 for xp suckz. took a week to sort my computer out and get things rite again. MS is so shit scared of worms they close all the ports which is a pain for file swaping. (so ive heard)

[picklemonkey]

[http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/01/06/m....ap/index.html]

[Kobe]

It looks like MS bought out an existing product called GIANT, which I hadn't heard of. I loaded it on my machine this morning, no problems with the system so far.

I can't really say how effective it is since I'm pretty good at avoiding spyware in the first place. I did a scan and it found 1 item: PowerRegScheduler. After I scaned with the MS product, I ran Spybot S&D and it found about 45 items, but they were all tracking cookies, which aren't such a big deal.

I like the fact that the MS version works as an active blocker, as well as a scan tool. Most users (clueless) don't even know what spyware is, let alone how to avoid it. A pro-active solution is really necessary.

From what I can tell so far, just like all the other Spyware software, NONE of them are perfect, and the most effective plan is to use several programs in conjunction. In that case it's good to have another option.

[palmer]

Ok anyone else see a problem with this?

because I fucking do.....
First its a beta and free...... blah blah all is well.
In a few months years whatever there will be a pay service...



DO YOU WANT EXTRA PROTECTION!?!?
for only $19.95 a month you can have the pro service which will remove the most malicious and deadly viruses on the interwebs





Lets have people pay for a our fuckups. What a world we live in.
This is all hypothetical of course but knowing m$ they will start charging for this service.
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[thefncrow]

The big problem is that Microsoft, who has an operating system with gaping holes in it and a browser that leaves those holes open, has now bought a spyware tool, and apparently plans to try to fix spyware reactively instead of proactively. Microsoft COULD close the holes the spyware comes in through, but, instead, they'd rather market a manner to get rid of the spyware that came in either through the stupidity of the user or by flaws in other Microsoft software.

And here's the real kicker: If this ever becomes a pay product, Microsoft would have reason to NOT fix holes through which malware enters the system, because if they fix the holes, they can't charge you for the software. However, I will refrain from badgering on this point until they start charging.

[arielus]

first they allow the spyware in their IE and Outlook, they they sell a product to fight it

that's simply STUPID.

[picklemonkey]

they try, give 'em credit. they release free updates to fix the holes as soon as they're detected, and they have all computers set up to automatically download updates. I'd say this is basically their way of saying "everybody stupid enough to not update is stupid enough to pay for this product." it's a good idea on their part, but I won't pay for it.

[neoee]

And here's the real kicker: If this ever becomes a pay product, Microsoft would have reason to NOT fix holes through which malware enters the system, because if they fix the holes, they can't charge you for the software. However, I will refrain from badgering on this point until they start charging.

I believe they already announced intentions, or at least left the option there, to charge for it later down the road.

"We're going to be working through the issue of pricing and licensing," Nash said. "We'll come up with a plan and roll that out."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/12/16/microsoft.spyware.ap/index.html

[TomTom]

Stupid MS should make their OS and IE secure FFS...there are a zillion solutions to get rid of Spyware out because of Microsoft's lack of security in their products.

[Kobe]

Since I'm only really familiar with Windows, could you guys please tell me which OS is hack proof? :wink:

[GrantT]

Where they'll be able to make money is not on the consumer side - for exactly the reasons you're talking about above. It'll be on the enterprise.

Patch management integration in the enterprise is hotting up as a 'next big thing' and MS is right there as a partner. Part firewall, part virus scanning, part security patching, part spyware detection - I'd be surprised if they're not moving into a similar space as McAfee/Symantec/Cisco etc by setting a minimum security level before you're able to access certain network resources. That needs to be addressed on multiple layers; and Microsoft is involved with several of those. Between MS, Intel and Cisco they could control access to just about anything you're likely to plug in to the business' network.

Mum and dad's home PC is one thing. Making money off their Enterprise and Select agreements is where the cash cow is. And if you're like most mid-to-large corporates, you'll buy Microsoft's software because Microsoft is the company standard.

Just my two cents.

[j0B]

[quote="thefncrow"]The big problem is that Microsoft, who has an operating system with gaping holes in it and a browser that leaves those holes open, has now bought a spyware tool, and apparently plans to try to fix spyware reactively instead of proactively. Microsoft COULD close the holes the spyware comes in through, but, instead, they'd rather market a manner to get rid of the spyware that came in either through the stupidity of the user or by flaws in other Microsoft software.[/quote="thefncrow"]


Most spyware does not come through security holes but ist installed by useres themselves without knowing it, as it comes bundled with other software (like Kazaa, weather info, etc). If you keep your system patched you will not be having problems with spyware that comes through security holes.


~j0B