To revive an old topic...

[skahound]

Re: To revive an old topic...

http://www.primermovie.com/

Will definitely check it out, thanks for the heads up. On a related topic, if any of you get the chance, I strongly urge you to read a fascinating book that explores OOBEs (Out of Body Experiences) and Astral Projection using experiments conducted with willing participants. Never in my life has a book had me glued to the pages as this one did. 'Far Journeys' by Robert Monroe

[remoh]

i think time travel as we see it in movies will never be posible. the time travel you guys are talking about is based on speed increase. the cern experiment, was just that (or what i understand from it) the time it would take for the particle/ beam to arrive at an increased speed was calculated. when the beam was fired it arrived faster than anticipated. is that time travel? or di the beams behavior become unpredictable

that theory that it would take a year to travel to andromeda and a year back and that every person that the traveler left behind would be dead by 2025 years, is kinda like the two clock scenario . so speding up slows time, humans could never travel at the speed of light, or any mass for that matter... mass increases the faster it goes, right?..

life in other planets... of course there is . will we be able to find it anytime soon i doubt it ... if they were smarter they would be here by now. fully visible and not just probing hillbilly ass.. otherwise they dont give a rats ass.


with new technologies and new materials space travel will become easier and cheaper. we wont necessarily see any dockings at other planets in our lifetime, butwe'll see the space tours become popular

[picklemonkey]

36 years ago we first landed on the moon. 3 months ago the first commercial "space plane" (SpaceShipOne) flew its first two consecutive flights into space. Within the next 72 years, we'll definitely see people start landing on the moon... may even see some sort of base on it at the rate we're going

[phazon]

Some seriously interesting shit, I've now got 8 new tabs in Firefox to check out. This is gonna hurt my head....

Yes, some form of life will be found pretty soon I reckon
No, not likely, but who knows what's round the corner?
Yes, whether it's affordable or just for the super rich only it ain't that far away.

[picklemonkey]

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[neoee]

Re: To revive an old topic...

Will definitely check it out, thanks for the heads up. On a related topic, if any of you get the chance, I strongly urge you to read a fascinating book that explores OOBEs (Out of Body Experiences) and Astral Projection using experiments conducted with willing participants. Never in my life has a book had me glued to the pages as this one did. 'Far Journeys' by Robert Monroe

pumkin- will definately be checking the movie out.

ska- I've been looking into Astral Projection myself. So much so that I actually tried Silva which some people are marketing as being able to help you project (but it really is just kind of a wierd high). I used to do it all the time, unknowningly, when I was younger. I think everyone does (usually the feeling of flying). But since I've been an adult its been far and few in between (much like the deja vu experiances). I found my self projecting one morning but when I realized it I was falling back into my body.

Its said that time travel is possible with AP, since you are no longer bound by the laws of physics. I'm going to have to check that book out, sounds really good. I think I've heard of Monroe. Is he the guy that had money mysteriously appearing in his pockets? If your interested in AP there's a free web course online which begins every 6 weeks or so. Seems like there no catch, but I haven't gone through it since it requires a comittment (an hour a day) to do the excersises. Here's the link if your interested:

http://www.mysticweb.org/phps/netclasses/

remoh- I don't think we will see time travel being done with speed increases as the current crop of experiment are looking towards but rather rips or warps opened in space-time. Check out the rumoured information on the Montauk project. Here's a post I found that really covers things pretty well.

[Yao]

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I'll take porn section.

Anywayz, this time traveling thing...Quantummechanics have different rules than the ordinary world, but even 'time travelling' as described with the light beam isn't really the time travelling we're talking about here. Technically, yes, but I think the principle is way different.

We're talking about time as a dimension of free movement. We needed planes to get off the ground, maybe we need something alike to get off the 'present'. But what that is going to be....

[skahound]

but even 'time travelling' as described with the light beam isn't really the time travelling we're talking about here. Technically, yes, but I think the principle is way different.

We have to start somewhere though. Maybe this experiment is just the beginning and will lead to an even bigger breakthrough.

[picklemonkey]

We needed planes to get off the ground, maybe we need something alike to get off the 'present'. But what that is going to be....

We accelerated planes to achieve flight, so we should accelerate light to achieve time travel.

[Yao]

The question is light is what makes time travel possible, although...will post some rantings about this later...have to take a shower first.

[remoh]

light can time travel ...everything else has too much mass.

[Kamal]

^^ Bingo.... and I personally think that speed of light conecpt has been too far overblown out of proportion.... two of the biggest reasons to travel closer to the speed of light are for A) Time travel and B) To cover the enormous distances in space.... both of which can and will eventually be covered by different principals derived from Quantum Physics (and obviously Mechanics).

The basic regime behind travelling great distances is covering a whole lot of ground. So if you were able to bend space and time around each other in a gravitational bubble, you could essentially cover a distance much greater than what light would cover in the same amount of time.

Prime example of this concept is covered in the Movie "Event Horizon". Will this help us cover the basics of Time Travel - I dont know but I'm darn sure it wouldn't be too hard since the ideology of using Time as a premise is not even considered in this concept.

For me, even living today is Time Travel. I imagine what we experience as time is in fact a spin off of light i.e. the slow down in the speed of light is what is left as time.

Take for a simple instance, the edges of the universe are / were expanding at the speed of light and have been doing so for roughly about 13 1/2 billion years. Now obvsiously we are located way towards the center since our solar system and surrounding reegions are NOT travelling at the speed of light (I think the earth is travelling at 21,000 - roughly - km/sec)

So since we are not travelling at the speed of light, we are experiencing a by-product of it called time.... why do I say that ? simple.... Time stands still at the speed of light.....

(food for thought)

-e-

[skahound]

Take for a simple instance, the edges of the universe are / were expanding at the speed of light and have been doing so for roughly about 13 1/2 billion years.

(food for thought)

What blows my mind is the fact that space is infinite, yet the universe is constantly expanding. What is it expanding to?

[Kamal]

^^ The palm of God..... and on the other palm is the parallel universe....

-e-

[remoh]

have you guys read about the space elevator? ...supodsedly it could be done within 25 years

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_020327-1.html