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  • trick12
    Are you Kidding me??
    • Jul 2007
    • 4412

    Dmt

    'Apparent Communication with Discarnate Entities Induced by Dimethyltryptamine (DMT)', by Peter Meyers


    The subjective effects of a good lungful of DMT are usually very intense, with consciousness usually overwhelmed by visual imagery. With eyes closed this may take the form of extremely complex, dynamic, geometric patterns, changing rapidly. Such a dose of DMT may produce a visual pattern consisting of overlapping annular patterns of small rhomboid elements all in saturated hues of red, yellow, green and blue. Gracie & Zarkov [44] refer to this, or something similar, as "the chrysanthemum pattern." The pattern itself seems to be charged with a Portentous energy.

    The state of consciousness characterized by amazing visual patterns seems to be a prelude to a more Profound state, which subjects report as contact with entities described as discarnate, nonhuman or alien. A very articulate account of the subjective effects of smoking DMT is given by Terence McKenna in his talk Tryptamine Hallucinogens and Consciousness [72], in which he recounts his contact with what he calls "elves."

    As usual with tryptamine psychedelics there is normally no loss of ego, although large doses will produce unconsciousness. There is often loss of body awareness. It is usually possible to think under the influence of DMT, but with larger doses it may become difficult to hold a thought, and sometimes confusion will occur.

    With a fully effective dose (e.g., 25 mg), the experience is usually so bizarre that an inexperienced person may believe that he or she has died, or is dying, especially if body awareness is lost. If this belief arises then it is important to remember that one will survive and return to ordinary consciousness. In general, yielding to the temptation to believe that one has died is not helpful when navigating psychedelic states since the resultant anxiety will usually distract one from a scientific observation of what is going on. More experienced users, knowing that hitherto they have always survived, however weird the experience, can learn not to succumb to this anxiety.

    DMT and hyperspace

    In this section and the following one I shall present a view which elaborates upon interpretations (ii), (vi) and(vii). This is speculation but nevertheless provides a preliminary framework for steps toward an understanding of what the use of DMT reveals to us.

    The world of ordinary, common, experience has three spatial dimensions and one temporal dimension, forming a place and time for the apparent persistence of solid objects. Since this is a world of experience it belongs more to experience than to being. The being, or ontological nature, of this world may be quite different from what we experience it as. Psychedelic experience strongly suggests that (as William James hypothesized) ordinary experience is an island in a sea of possible modes of consciousness. Under the influence of substances such as LSD and psilocybin we venture outside of the world as commonly viewed and enter spaces which may be very strange indeed. This happens as a result of hanging our brain chemistry. Why then should we not regard ordinary experience too as a result of a particular mode of brain chemistry? Perhaps the world of ordinary experience is not a faithful representation of physical reality but rather is physical reality represented in the manner of ordinary brain functioning. By taking this idea seriously we may free our understanding of physical reality from the limitations imposed by the unthinking assumption that ordinary experience represents physical reality as it is. In fact physical reality may be totally bizarre and quite unlike anything we have thought it to be.

    In his special theory of relativity, Albert Einstein demonstrated that the physical world (the world that can be measured by physical instruments, but is assumed to exist independently) is best understood as a four-dimensional space which may be separated into three spatial dimensions and one temporal dimension in various ways, the particular separation depending on the motion of a hypothetical observer. It seems that DMT releases one's consciousness from the ordinary experience of space and time and catapults one into direct experience of a four-dimensional world. This explains the feeling of incredulity which first-time users frequently report.

    The DMT realm is described by some as "incredible," "bizarre," "unbelievable" and even "impossible," and for many who have experienced it these terms are not an exaggeration. These terms make sense if the world experienced under DMT is a four-dimensional world experienced by a mind which is trying to make sense of it in terms of its usual categories of three-dimensional space and one-dimensional time. In the DMT state these categories no longer apply to whatever it is that is being experienced.

    Some Persons report that it seems that in the DMT experience there is information transfer of some sort. If so, and if this information is quite unlike anything that we are used to dealing with (at least at a conscious level), then it may be that the bizarre quality of the experience results from attempting to impose categories of thought which are quite inapplicable. The space that one breaks through to under the influence of a large dose of DMT has been called "hyperspace" by Terence McKenna and Ralph Abraham [74] and by Gracie & Zarkov [44]. I suggest that hyperspace is an experience of physical reality which is "closer" to it (or less mediated) than is our ordinary experience. In hyperspace one has direct experience of the four-dimensionality of physical reality. Parenthetically we may note a mildly interesting case of historical anticipation. In 1897 one H.C. Geppinger published a book entitled DMT: Dimensional Motion Times [31], an appropriate title for our current subject. However, he was, of course, quite unaware of what the initials "DMT" would later come to mean.

    When reflecting upon his mescaline experiences Aldous Huxley suggested that there was something, which he called "Mind-at-Large," which was filtered by the ordinary functioning of the human brain to Produce ordinary experience. One may view the human body and the human nervous system as a cybernetic system for constructing a stable representation of a world of enduring objects which are able to interact in ways that we are familiar with from our ordinary experience. This is analogous to a computer's production of a stable video display -- for even a simple blinking cursor requires complicated coordination of underlying physical processes to make it happen. In a sense we are (or at least may be thought of as) biological computers whose typical output is the world of everyday reality (as we experience it). When our biocomputational processes are modified by strange chemicals we have the opportunity to view the reality underlying ordinary experience in an entirely new way.

    Einstein's four-dimensional space-time may thus turn out to be not merely a flux of energetic point-events but to be (or to be contained in a higher-dimensional space which is) at least as organized as our ordinary world and which contains intelligent, communicating beings capable of interacting with us. As Hamlet remarked to his Aristotelian tutor, following an encounter with a dead soul (his deceased father), "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Should we be surprised to find that there are more intelligent, communicating, beings in the higher-dimensional reality underlying our ordinary experience than we find within that experience?

    Sounds Serious...
    Life's pretty fast..blup..blup...We made it!!
  • i!!ustrious
    I got some N64 Games Yo!!
    • Mar 2008
    • 12308

    #2
    Re: Dmt

    you should read, "DMT - The Spirit Molecule" by Rick Strassman M.D.
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    • Kamal
      Administrator
      • May 2002
      • 28835

      #3
      Re: Dmt

      Has anyone heard of this? I briefly saw a snippet about this theory in a show on the History Channel. Apparently this guy call Terrance Mckenna headed out into the jungles of South America and while experimenting for a while with some natural hallucinogen, he claims to have received instructions to review Chinese scripture and
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      Jib says:
      he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
      Originally posted by ace_dl
      Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
      I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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      • feather
        Shanghai ooompa loompa
        • Jul 2004
        • 20898

        #4
        Re: Dmt

        Yes I'm very curious about DMT but it sounds like the final frontier in recreational drugs ... not sure if I'll ever be ready to try it. Plus I've read it smells/inhales like burnt rubber

        i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

        Originally posted by Hoff
        a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
        Originally posted by m1sT3rL
        Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

        I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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        • trick12
          Are you Kidding me??
          • Jul 2007
          • 4412

          #5
          Re: Dmt

          oh wow, so did u ever do what jenks said?..

          Originally posted by feather
          ... not sure if I'll ever be ready to try it
          i dont think its the kinda thing you can ever be ready for, its def interesting tho
          Life's pretty fast..blup..blup...We made it!!

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          • Kamal
            Administrator
            • May 2002
            • 28835

            #6
            Re: Dmt

            no experimentation at my age.
            www.mjwebhosting.com

            Jib says:
            he isnt worth the water that splashes up into your asshole while you're shitting
            Originally posted by ace_dl
            Guys and Gals, I have to hurry/leaving for short-term vacations.
            I won't be back until next Tuesday, so if Get Carter is the correct answer, I would appreciate of someone else posts a new cap for me

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            • feather
              Shanghai ooompa loompa
              • Jul 2004
              • 20898

              #7
              Re: Dmt

              Yes to that too ... it's a side-effect of old age. I'm finding myself less keen to experiment with stuff that could potentially fuck me up. I've had my share of experimentation and fun, I think I can live without DMT

              i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

              Originally posted by Hoff
              a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
              Originally posted by m1sT3rL
              Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

              I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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              • GranolaGirl
                Getting warmed up
                • Jul 2010
                • 54

                #8
                Re: Dmt

                I'm guessing this isn't the type of thing I should admit to, but I tried it years ago. It was insane.

                My friend mixed it with tobacco *wink* in a pipe. Before I was ever able to exhale the entire drag my vision had broken into a grid pattern and was starting to crumble from the corners. I remember getting nauseated so I tried to run to the bathroom. While I was in there, I threw up and then realized I was getting ready to die. Everything was running thru my head from how many people where going to get in trouble if I died and who would take care of my dog! I had decided it was all groovy and things were gonna be fine so I should just chill.
                I quit breathing at some point but I realized that I wasn't so I made my friend remind me to breath.

                Long story short, I ended out on the front porch because I needed fresh air (it was the middle of winter btw). By the time I got out there the body high was amazing! I thought that I had been in that bathroom for hours! It had been 15 minutes.
                It was intense, overwhelming and insane! I'm pretty sure the dose I got was purely a guestamation as the guy bought it off the internet and I was a guinea pig.

                All in all, neat experience to have. Would I ever do it again? Fuck that!!

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                • feather
                  Shanghai ooompa loompa
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 20898

                  #9
                  Re: Dmt

                  Errr so no 'breaking through' and aliens?

                  I didn't think people did DMT to get high on it ... there're othe easier shit to do, eg. salvia.

                  i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

                  Originally posted by Hoff
                  a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
                  Originally posted by m1sT3rL
                  Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

                  I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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                  • GranolaGirl
                    Getting warmed up
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 54

                    #10
                    Re: Dmt

                    Originally posted by feather
                    Errr so no 'breaking through' and aliens?
                    Definitely none of that for me!

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                    • feather
                      Shanghai ooompa loompa
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 20898

                      #11
                      Re: Dmt

                      Did it smell like burnt rubber??

                      i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

                      Originally posted by Hoff
                      a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
                      Originally posted by m1sT3rL
                      Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

                      I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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                      • GranolaGirl
                        Getting warmed up
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 54

                        #12
                        Re: Dmt

                        Originally posted by feather
                        Did it smell like burnt rubber??
                        I honestly don't remember that. I do remember it tasting funny though.

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                        • trick12
                          Are you Kidding me??
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 4412

                          #13
                          Re: Dmt

                          well it seems it didnt go to well for u

                          people usually dont do this stuff for fun
                          Life's pretty fast..blup..blup...We made it!!

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                          • rainman
                            Platinum Poster
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1869

                            #14
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                            • jackdaniels
                              Addiction started
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 327

                              #15
                              Re: Dmt

                              Originally posted by rainman
                              Was going to post the same link.
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