This Letter of Apology was written by Lieutenant General

[thesightless]

you seem angry...

but seriously, so many people cry about the polarized views today, only to go ahead and try to tell the other side they should be your side... rather than heading to each other... prime example is "the fuck you", you just gave out to the republicans. you should also give it to the democrats for letting themselves sway so far to the left that they waste valuable dollars on a billion special interests and then raise our taxes. they are moreso responsible for what happened early on in bush's first term than he is, they set the country up for it with all the economic sanctions and strangleholds they instituted. they simply should have jsut ignored the middle east and a few other countries and just let those countries' neighbors worry about it. its not who is right or wrong, but how the hell we can all work together. maybe instead of simply telling bush he is wrong, the more hardcore democrats should drop some suggestions on how to fix the problems rather than abandoning them. too many people wanna live in this utopia that view as a better place when in reality people are dying, starving, and warring thorughout the world. if it takes a war for example to actually try to help those people, then why shouldnt we at least try it.?? i know its bad, but if its directed violence to those who do the evil things, in a valid attempt to stop it, then wouldnt the future be worth fighting for???? i mean look at former yugo. the area is at least a better place now that slobodan(?spell?) and his military factions arent running the place into the ground. afghanistan has a representative gov't now, maybe in 5 years they will all be better off. iraq also now has the oppurtunity to flourish. IT DIDNT B4. in reality we DO have people of less than great character openly telling the civilized world, WE HAVE NUKES. you dont think that the korean leadership would use a nuke if even tempted by the UN? just look at IRAN who told the UN nuclear monitoring agency they werent allowed to see what they were doing.. if they had nothing to hide, why in the world would they refuse to show thier hand? its scary. but if another invasion prevents a few nukes from going off in NY/LONDON/BERLIN/tokyo one day, hell i say save a lot of lives and go get the damn things, by force if neccessary. just look at africa, if the US/canada/uk/germany etc go in and use force to stop the genocides, YOU CAN COUNT ON A BUNCH of people crying that we are pro war, when in fact, the use force is the only thing that will stop the problem.

my2cents. and seriously, to every movie star and celebrity and normal joe who whines about how bad and terrible this place is,.... why the fuck are you still here? you are free to go. actually your skills are probably more in demand somewhere else. :?


(edit) and as far as 9/11 and other terror attacks, they are in no way a faith based initiative. they are done by a group of people from a smiliar backround who are smart enough to claim it as a ""mulim ordeal"" because it creates a bigger target than the small group of people directly responsible. they spread the blame, quite unwarrented at that/. do you honestly think the local bahgdad cable repair guy had anything to do with the the guy who was at the flight controls on 9/11, i dont. and its a fucking shame those worms got themselves grouped into a larger population. the only thing bush really ties to his religion was the attempted ban of gay marriage, and hell we all knwo thats wrong. they are people in the same manner blacks and women are. unfortunetly, there are stupid people in the world and it takes a long time to convince them, otherwise. i mean it was only the mid 1900's when blacks were allowed to even be considered equal. and not even a hundred years b4 they weren't even looked at as people, merely property

[thesightless]

you seem angry...

but seriously, so many people cry about the polarized views today, only to go ahead and try to tell the other side they should be your side... rather than heading to each other... prime example is "the fuck you", you just gave out to the republicans. you should also give it to the democrats for letting themselves sway so far to the left that they waste valuable dollars on a billion special interests and then raise our taxes. they are moreso responsible for what happened early on in bush's first term than he is, they set the country up for it with all the economic sanctions and strangleholds they instituted. they simply should have jsut ignored the middle east and a few other countries and just let those countries' neighbors worry about it. its not who is right or wrong, but how the hell we can all work together. maybe instead of simply telling bush he is wrong, the more hardcore democrats should drop some suggestions on how to fix the problems rather than abandoning them. too many people wanna live in this utopia that view as a better place when in reality people are dying, starving, and warring thorughout the world. if it takes a war for example to actually try to help those people, then why shouldnt we at least try it.?? i know its bad, but if its directed violence to those who do the evil things, in a valid attempt to stop it, then wouldnt the future be worth fighting for???? i mean look at former yugo. the area is at least a better place now that slobodan(?spell?) and his military factions arent running the place into the ground. afghanistan has a representative gov't now, maybe in 5 years they will all be better off. iraq also now has the oppurtunity to flourish. IT DIDNT B4. in reality we DO have people of less than great character openly telling the civilized world, WE HAVE NUKES. you dont think that the korean leadership would use a nuke if even tempted by the UN? just look at IRAN who told the UN nuclear monitoring agency they werent allowed to see what they were doing.. if they had nothing to hide, why in the world would they refuse to show thier hand? its scary. but if another invasion prevents a few nukes from going off in NY/LONDON/BERLIN/tokyo one day, hell i say save a lot of lives and go get the damn things, by force if neccessary.

my2cents. and seriously, to every movie star and celebrity and normal joe who whines about how bad and terrible this place is,.... why the fuck are you still here? you are free to go. actually your skills are probably more in demand somewhere else. :?

[thesightless]

dammit double post...


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[White_Hindu]

I don't have a problem living in America, I have a problem with Americans changing the standards for people NOT living in America.

Do you honestly think Clinton was the downfall of America? Clinton had the right idea. He collected moneys from the citizens to in turn spend it on citizens. The most we can say about Bush is he collected moneys from the citizens to spend it in Iraq.

I don't understand how increased tax rates can so easily make you angry. A command economy is much more stable and reliable than a free market. Free market gives corporations too much power. Command economy guarantees social security forever(something I won't have when the time comes).

Bush won't admit he was wrong about Iraq. They DIDN'T have WMD. He just wanted to show Saddam who was boss, and he did. In 10th grade economics class, I learned that it was nearly impossible to bring another form of government into a new nation. 10th grade. Did Bush even TAKE econ?

Gay marriage ban? What the fuck? What is the problem with gays again? It's "Against God"? Sorry, biblefuck, the CONSTITUTION separates church and state. Don't press your God shit onto me, I don't have to believe it.

I wanted a president who would make back some of our lost money(that's like 8 trillion dollars if you don't know, Reagan and Bush Sr. Lost that much in 8 years, while W. Bush lost it in 4). I wanted a president who realizes it isn't about what's in your hand, it's about what the people want. At least Kerry went to Vietnam and experienced an unjust war forced upon America.

I am angry. I fear for my life when I wake up. If a hydrogen bomb were to decimate Washington DC, I'd be inside the intial blast radius. And why the fuck are we trying to force "our" values on the world regarding nuclear weapons? WE'RE the hypocrite fucks who USED the bomb, and killed like 140,000 innocent civilians.

If anything, AMERICA needs to be invaded. In fact, I hope we're invaded by like all of Europe. At least then you'll see I'm fucking right. America shouldn't try to run the world, most Americans are uncharismatic, stupid, and fat.

[fishingnut]

And why the fuck are we trying to force "our" values on the world regarding nuclear weapons? WE'RE the hypocrite fucks who USED the bomb, and killed like 140,000 innocent civilians.


cause they are bad plan and simple, it doesn't make a difference if we used them or not. we haven't used them since. and noone should have them.

[thesightless]

andd the 2 nukes were used as the last resort. everyone regrets what happned. but there was no other option.

[Yao]

America should stop forcing it's worldview on other countries, but invading it...I'd only do it if I could hang around with you guys and drink beer!

Seriously: Even I, opposed to the way the US is trying to run things, don't see things so radically. It's right when it sais Saddam was evil and had to go. It's admirable when it sais it wants to fight dictators and despots all over the world.

It's suspicious when I find out it wants to use Iraq as a jump-off point for other wars in the Middle East.
It's frightening when I read about the 'Gap-theory', which gives it a moral wildcard to start a war against any nation that is 'disconnected' in any way in their opinion.
It's arrogant whan it thinks democracy is always better than anything else: sometimes it just won't work. History hasn't been homogenous all over the planet, but they keep forgetting this.

What America has done isn't so bad after all, but the REASONS why are disturbing. That's why I'm still opposed, in principle. And it has been very selective in it's choices of action: that doesn't add to it's credibility.

Iraq acts like it is ready for democracy, but it's not. It's not in their system: as soon as the US leaves and they think they're safe, the Iraqian 'democracy' will turn fake, and the new leaders will start to enrich themselves. That is also inherent to their faith: hierarchical structures, inequality.

IMO, the best chance of preventing terrorism still lies in strengthening economies, creating opportunities, and promoting political and religious reform in those areas really gradually, not in a shockwave style. Support the already existent reform movements, work from within.

Just my 2 cents.

[fishingnut]

what nation has the us attacked that did not deserve to be attacked? just wondering

[Gonzo]

And why the fuck are we trying to force "our" values on the world regarding nuclear weapons? WE'RE the hypocrite fucks who USED the bomb, and killed like 140,000 innocent civilians.


cause they are bad plan and simple, it doesn't make a difference if we used them or not. we haven't used them since. and noone should have them.

They are bad plain and simple? That's not even an answer my friend... That has a sociological explanation... we always see the fundamentalism in the "other", and we try to kill that "other" not realizing that we're comitting a "fundamentalism" act... silencing the "other" to make the world more similar to "our" point of view. Killing fundamentalism, is an act of fundamentalism (even bigger).

Why you americans always see the bad in the "other"? Aren't you bad too? Aren't you comitting fundamentalism acts by killing Fundamentalism fans? I think a lot of people has to read a lot more, and stop watching some TV... --> this is not a direct answer to "fishingnut"...it's referred to many people in America.

[White_Hindu]

what nation has the us attacked that did not deserve to be attacked?

Well, Japan for one. We were days from winning the pacific campain, but Truman wanted to scare the world, so we dropped the bomb onto Japan. Not onto any military targets either, on major cities targetting civilians only.

Second: Iraq. We had no beef with Iraq. Desert Storm was like 12 years ago, and Saddam didn't have WMDs.

We're just as bad as the 'terrorists', using force and fear to control the world.

[fishingnut]

And why the fuck are we trying to force "our" values on the world regarding nuclear weapons? WE'RE the hypocrite fucks who USED the bomb, and killed like 140,000 innocent civilians.


cause they are bad plan and simple, it doesn't make a difference if we used them or not. we haven't used them since. and noone should have them.

They are bad plain and simple? That's not even an answer my friend... That has a sociological explanation... we always see the fundamentalism in the "other", and we try to kill that "other" not realizing that we're comitting a "fundamentalism" act... silencing the "other" to make the world more similar to "our" point of view. Killing fundamentalism, is an act of fundamentalism (even bigger).

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what you don't agree the nuclear bombs are bad. do you feel that every nation should have them cause the US has them.

what sociological explanation. you lost me on that one.

[Gonzo]

I just think that If USA has Nuclear Weapons, they can't force every other nation not to have them. It's something like: "do what I say, and don't do what I do".

[fishingnut]

so you feel it's ok that iran or irak or syria or any other wacky nation out there that has no stability you think it is ok for them to have nuclear weapons? cause i think that's crazy. but that's just me

and the us has not built any new nuclear weapons in years. as i thought they where trying to reduce them. and so where the rest of the old super powers

[Gonzo]

No, I think it's wrong to have nuclear weapons... but I think it's worse that USA wants every other country without nukes, while they have (USA) nuclear weapons. It's stupid... come on, United States should dismantle its own bombs before asking / forcing other people to dismantle theirs.

And... my friend, you have just said something that examples what I said in my "sociological" explanation about fundamentalism. Why you think Syria, Iran or Irak ar wacky nations? Can't you see that the fact of them being different doesn't make those nations Wacky? Do you think USA isn't wacky trying to disarm every fucking country while they have nukes? Isn't USA wacky... killing thousands of innocent civilians for a false cause, in name of God and liberty? Isn't USA wacky, using the fear for death with its citizens as a political instrument to cut off rights and liberty from people? That Leviathan is getting stronger with the liberty that citizens gives to him... and the fact is that you have no notice about it.

[fishingnut]

i ment wacky= not stabile

sorry that i didn't spell it out for you.

i didn't mean it in any other way.

and the US is dismantling the nuclear weapon program they have been for years now.