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  • DIDI
    Aussie Pest
    • Nov 2004
    • 16844

    Another Attack On our Music.??

    I put this up in a NID request thread , but it certainly warrants discussion. One of NID's mixes was coming up as deleted on my account in Mediafire. After many emails to and fro from Mediafire, including one where they said that had no record of anyone at Mediafire deleting it, I got this.

    Hello,

    The validation email is a feature that was recently implemented to further secure your account. If you click on the link you will be prompted to enter the pin which will validate your email address that you are using to login for your Mediafire account.

    Upon further research, we have found that a DMCA request notice was submitted by the following in reference to your file


    Dear Sir/Madam,



    I am contacting you on behalf of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) and the record companies it represents. The IFPI is a trade association that represents over 1,400 major and independent record companies in the US and internationally who create, manufacture and distribute sound recordings (the "IFPI Represented Companies").

    Under penalty of perjury, we submit that we are authorized to act on behalf of the IFPI Represented Companies in matters involving the infringement of their sound recordings, including enforcing their copyrights and common law rights on the Internet.

    We have learned that your service is hosting the above web page on your network. The copyright in this sound recording is owned or exclusively controlled by certain IFPI Represented Companies.

    We have a good faith belief that the above-described activity is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law. We assert that the information in this notification is accurate, based upon the data available to us.

    We are asking for your immediate assistance in stopping this unauthorized activity. Specifically, we request that you remove the infringing link from your system or that you disable access to the infringing link, and that you inform the site operator of the illegality of his or her conduct.

    Our top priority is to prevent the continued availability of the IFPI Represented Companies' content on the internet. Unauthorized copies of sound recordings that are freely available, especially pre-release recordings, cause substantial damage to the IFPI Represented Companies every hour and day they remain available. In sending this notice we are seeking to ensure that infringing content is removed from the internet as quickly as possible through your cooperation. However, please note that we do not admit that we or the IFPI Represented Companies are responsible for detecting infringing material and notifying you of it.

    Our use of a notice in this form, as required by you, is meant to facilitate your removal of the infringing material listed above and we neither admit nor accept that you are a 'service provider' for the purposes of the DMCA or that it is necessary to serve, or that you are entitled to be served, a notice in compliance with the DMCA. IFPI itself and on behalf of the IFPI Represented Companies expressly reserves all rights in this regard.

    In addition, this notice does not constitute a waiver of any right to recover damages incurred by virtue of any unauthorised activities described in this notice, and such rights as well as claims for other relief are hereby expressly reserved.

    You may contact me at IFPI Secretariat, 10 Piccadilly, London W1J 0DD, United Kingdom or email Notices@ifpi.org, to discuss this notice.

    We await your response.

    Yours faithfully

    Jeremy Banks
    Director, Internet Anti-Piracy
    IFPI
    10 Piccadilly
    London
    W1J 0DD
    United Kingdom
    Email: Notices@ifpi.org
    I really , really want to find out more about this !!
    Originally posted by TheVrk
    it IS incredible isn't it??
    STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
    Simply does not get any better than Hernan
    The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies
  • diegoff
    Are you Kidding me??
    • Jun 2004
    • 3860

    #2
    Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

    delete the file... I'm sure it's posted somewhere else... maybe the note is true
    Itīs a spiritual thing!

    feb 2021 https://soundcloud.com/diegoarv/pand...os-inflamables
    Sept 26th https://soundcloud.com/diegoarv/earthling-vibes
    May 1st 2020 https://soundcloud.com/diegoarv/current

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    • DIDI
      Aussie Pest
      • Nov 2004
      • 16844

      #3
      Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

      I'm not about covering my own arse !! I take pride in the fact that I don't share illegal music, this obviously had NID's permission. I want to know how and why it is happening. ??

      That came from Mediafire as I said, and they have already deleted it. Of course it is elsewhere , it's on NID's soundcloud!

      I have the mix .
      Originally posted by TheVrk
      it IS incredible isn't it??
      STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
      Simply does not get any better than Hernan
      The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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      • tiddles
        Encryption, Jr.
        • Jun 2004
        • 6861

        #4
        Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

        oh that's shitty. they don't even name the piece of music. mediafire didn't even ask for that? company has no balls.

        honestly, it's no surprise -- do you really think it's legally squeeky clean for DJs to release mix sets? all it takes is one pissed off artist, even though I'm sure most don't care.

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        • DIDI
          Aussie Pest
          • Nov 2004
          • 16844

          #5
          Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

          ^^^ or just one malicious report of any description. ??? I would have thought if a DJ pays for music he would be allowed to use it?? That link is to the mix so they do name the piece of music. When I can do it without getting really angry I am going to find out just what the procedure is. One way or the other it doesn't bode well for DJ mixes. Which means everyone can suffer, particularly DJs , if they can't do promo releases.

          Actually, imagine the consequences for MS
          Originally posted by TheVrk
          it IS incredible isn't it??
          STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
          Simply does not get any better than Hernan
          The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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          • tiddles
            Encryption, Jr.
            • Jun 2004
            • 6861

            #6
            Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

            nah, I think it's just because all those file sharing services are shady as fuck. People really use them to send family photos to the inlaws? yeah right, I bet they're 90% piracy.

            They probably get served with these letters all day long and take stuff down without a hassle to keep their business going.

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            • DIDI
              Aussie Pest
              • Nov 2004
              • 16844

              #7
              Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

              ^^ While I agree with all that, someone has to report it first. I think we should be aware .
              Originally posted by TheVrk
              it IS incredible isn't it??
              STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
              Simply does not get any better than Hernan
              The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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              • floridaorange
                I'm merely a humble butler
                • Dec 2005
                • 29116

                #8
                Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

                Originally posted by tiddles
                do you really think it's legally squeeky clean for DJs to release mix sets? all it takes is one pissed off artist, even though I'm sure most don't care.
                Very true.

                It was fun while it lasted...

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                • res0nat0r
                  Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                  • May 2006
                  • 14475

                  #9
                  Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

                  I've uploaded the sasha and hernan moonpark set from '03 what maybe 2-3 years ago and it is still there with 1500+ downloads. I uploaded Howells' Tech Trance a year back or so and it mysteriously vanished, but I didn't get an warning letter like that, so with that old set still alive and kicking I doubt it is any access/purging issue. I wonder if the same has happened to me.

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                  • 88Mariner
                    My dick is smaller
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 7128

                    #10
                    Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

                    Dear Jeremy Banks,



                    Go fuck yourself.



                    Sincerely,



                    ME.
                    you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                    it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                    Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                    ----PEACE-----

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                    • DIDI
                      Aussie Pest
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 16844

                      #11
                      Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

                      [^^^^ I like that

                      Originally posted by res0nat0r
                      I've uploaded the sasha and hernan moonpark set from '03 what maybe 2-3 years ago and it is still there with 1500+ downloads. I uploaded Howells' Tech Trance a year back or so and it mysteriously vanished, but I didn't get an warning letter like that, so with that old set still alive and kicking I doubt it is any access/purging issue. I wonder if the same has happened to me.
                      I don't think you are quite getting it. I didn't get a letter either, that is a copy of the email I got from Mediafire after hassling them as to why the download wasn't working. I haven't had a problem with any of my older stuff that I know off either, although some have mysteriously vanished. Btw if I just looked, I would say it is till there, it just doesn't work !

                      The point is, it very well could be the start of something bigger, or it could be something that has been happening and we aren't aware of it.

                      I want to see just why they feel that any laws apply to this and I would also like to know if just anyone can report that it is unlawful. Basically I want to know who is claiming to be the owner of this sound recording. I'm sure NID thinks it is his!!
                      Originally posted by TheVrk
                      it IS incredible isn't it??
                      STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
                      Simply does not get any better than Hernan
                      The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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                      • res0nat0r
                        Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                        • May 2006
                        • 14475

                        #12
                        Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

                        Ah oops, I read it too quickly and thought you got that email directly. I am betting that mediafire recieved a DMCA takedown request and just deleted the file no questions asked, as like mentioned above, probably 90% of the stuff on mediafire/megaupload/rapidshare is either porn/warez or other crap like that.

                        My guess is possibly someone associated with the label in one of the artists in his mix somehow came across this and thought they would lose money because someone would rather 'steal' that tune via this mix vs. paying the label for it. So they asked to take it down and mediafire did since they probably get so many of these they can't even keep up.

                        Just my 2c of what I think might be going on.

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                        • mnbvcxz
                          Platinum Poster
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1312

                          #13
                          Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

                          Originally posted by tiddles
                          nah, I think it's just because all those file sharing services are shady as fuck. People really use them to send family photos to the inlaws? yeah right, I bet they're 90% piracy.

                          They probably get served with these letters all day long and take stuff down without a hassle to keep their business going.
                          Spot on.

                          In a nutshell, I think DIDI is trying to ascertain whether there is going to be a crack down on DJ mixes/Promos. By law, I'm sure it's not squeaky clean as some other people have already said. Will they have a crack down? I highly doubt it because.

                          a) Impossible to police
                          b) Artists would benefit overall from these releases. Free exposure. More sales. No complaints. That's one role of a DJ - to promote material and artists.
                          c) Posting the material online is not really illegal as such. It's more so what is done with the mix after it is downloaded. If it's private use I don't see a problem. If you're playing it in a commerical environment, I'm sure there are royalty issues by doing this.

                          Just my thoughts anyway...

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                          • DIDI
                            Aussie Pest
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 16844

                            #14
                            Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

                            Most of what you say is right. :They do porn?? I want to know precisely. It's a mix so no label, it's not a tune, they refer to this sound recording and it's a full mix. NID tends to change tunes to his style so any artist would find it difficult. It's just not a commercial release . And they are saying they are an organisation of recording companies. I actually think it's more likely that that organisation is sending these out willy nilly to scare people. But they still need someone to report first. I can't tell you how much I resent being treated like a criminal

                            Strangely enough they haven't deleted it from my files?? Just can't access it.
                            Originally posted by TheVrk
                            it IS incredible isn't it??
                            STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
                            Simply does not get any better than Hernan
                            The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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                            • 88Mariner
                              My dick is smaller
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 7128

                              #15
                              Re: Another Attack On our Music.??

                              Originally posted by nikoa
                              Spot on.

                              In a nutshell, I think DIDI is trying to ascertain whether there is going to be a crack down on DJ mixes/Promos. By law, I'm sure it's not squeaky clean as some other people have already said. Will they have a crack down? I highly doubt it because.

                              a) Impossible to police
                              b) Artists would benefit overall from these releases. Free exposure. More sales. No complaints. That's one role of a DJ - to promote material and artists.
                              c) Posting the material online is not really illegal as such. It's more so what is done with the mix after it is downloaded. If it's private use I don't see a problem. If you're playing it in a commerical environment, I'm sure there are royalty issues by doing this.

                              Just my thoughts anyway...
                              someone delete the Promo section QUICK
                              you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                              it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                              Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                              ----PEACE-----

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