2010/2011 Conspiracies

[res0nat0r]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

I think you are being banned because of this:

rather than this:

[runningman]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

Nope

[dig72]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

Notice the google adverts about ink cartriges.

Coincidence?

[res0nat0r]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

cia

[floridaorange]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

[dig72]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

cia

lol

[tiddles]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

we're all fucked.

Vanga (Vangelia) Pandeva was born on January 31st, 1911 in Strumica (today in Republic of Macedonia) and spent her life living in Bulgaria until she died on August 11th, 1996. She lost her sight when she was 12 years old when she was swept away by a tornado. She was found alive with sand in her eyes, which was the reason for her blindness. Vanga began making predictions when she was 16 years old. She became very famous for having this gift rather quickly. Many of the statesman including Hitler had visited her and it is reported that Hitler left her house looking upset.



Predictions:
2010 – World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.
2011 – As a result of the fallout of nuclear fallout in the northern hemisphere will not be any animals or vegetation. Then Muslims will wage war against chemical surviving Europeans.
2014 – Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).
2016 – Europe almost lonely (empty).
2018 – New China becomes a world power. Developing countries in turn operated from exploiters.
2023 – A little bit of change in the Earth’s orbit.
2025 – Europe still little settled.
2028 – Creating a new energy source (probably a controlled thermonuclear reaction). Hunger is gradually being overcome. Launched a manned spacecraft to Venus.
2033 – The polar ice are melting. Greater levels of the oceans.
2043 – The world economy is thriving. In Europe, Muslims rule.
2046 – any bodies (organs) can be manufactured (cloning?). Replacing the bodies is becoming one of the best methods of treatment.
2066 – During the attack on the Muslim Rome, the United States used a new kind of weapon – the climate. The sharp cooling (instant freezing).
2076 – Classless Society (communism).
2084 – The restoration of nature.
2088 – A new disease – aging for a few seconds!
2097 – The rapid aging defeated.
2100 – Artificial sun illuminates the dark side of the Earth.
2111 – People become living robots.
2123 – The war between small nations. Big nations do not intervene.
2125 – Hungary will receive signals from space.
2130 – Colony under water (with the help of sympathetic councils).
2164 – Animals turn half-human.
2167 – A new religion.
2170 – Major drought.
2183 – A colony on Mars becomes a nuclear power, and demands independence from the Earth (like when – the United States from England).
2187 – Will stop 2 large eruption of volcanoes.
2195 – Sea Colony fully developed, abundant energy and food.
2196 – Complete mixing of Asians and Europeans.
2201 – At the Sun slowing thermonuclear processes. Temperature drops.
2221 – In the search for extraterrestrial life, humanity comes into contact with what – something terrible.
2256 – Spacecraft forgotten to Earth terrible new disease.
2262 – Planets gradually changing planetary orbit. Mars is threatened by comets.
2271 – Restart physical constants are changed. (Laws of physics changed?)
2273 – Mixing yellow, white and black races. New race.
2279 – Power from nothing (probably from a vacuum or a black hole).
2288 – Travel back in time (Time Travel invented?). New contacts with aliens.
2291 – The sun cools. Attempts were being made to light it again.
2296 – Powerful eruption on the Sun. Changing the force of gravity. Beginning to fall old space stations and satellites.
2299 – In France, guerrilla movement against Islam.
2302 – New important laws and secrets of the universe revealed.
2304 – Secrets of the Moon revealed.
2341 – Something terrible is approaching Earth from space.
2354 – An accident in one of the artificial Sun leads to drought.
2371 – The great famine.
2378 – A new fast-growing race.
2480 – 2 artificial Suns collide. Land in the twilight.
3005 -The war on Mars. Violated the trajectory of the planet.
3010 – Comet hits Moon. Around the Earth – ring/zone of the stones and dust.
3797 – By this time on Earth killed all life, but mankind will be able to lay the foundations for a new life in another stellar system.
3803 – A new planet is populated by little. Fewer contacts between people. Climate new planet affects the organisms of people – they mutate.
3805 – The war between humans for resources. More than half of people dying out.
3815 – The war is over.
3854 – The development of civilization virtually stops. People live flocks as beasts.
3871 – New prophet tells people about moral values, religion.
3874 – New prophet receives support from all segments of the population. Organized a new church.
3878 – along with the Church to re-train new people forgotten sciences.
4302 – New cities are growing in the world. New Church encourages the development of new technology and science.
4302 – The development of science. Scientists discovered in the overall impact of all diseases in organism behavior.
4304 – Found a way to win any disease.
4308 – Due to mutation people at last beginning to use their brains more than 34%. Completely lost the notion of evil and hatred.
4509 – Getting to Know God. The man has finally been reached such a level of development that can communicate with God.
4599 – People achieve immortality.
4674 – The development of civilization has reached its peak. The number of people living on different planets is about 340 billion. Assimilation begins with aliens.
5076 – A boundary universe. With it, no one knows.
5078 – The decision to leave the boundaries of the universe. While about 40 percent of the population is against it.
5079 – End of the World.

[runningman]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

wow I can honestly say that is a new one to me... Love it

[tiddles]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

here ya go:

http://www.alamongordo.com/prophecies_for_2011.html

merry christmas!

[i!!ustrious]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

fuck yes! "warp fields stabilized"

i hope some sirius starships land at my pad for my birthday this month! i shit you not.

[i!!ustrious]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

i've heard of that gal before. a lot of these psychic mediums are impression-ed from the lower astral plane - by discarnate entities - where stuff like this is actually happening; the thing is, is that the physical and the astral are about as real as our dreams. o.O

[bobjuice]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

would be interested to see her predictions previous to 2010

[tiddles]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

Russian Disaster
In 1980, she stated:

Quote:
"At the turn of the century, in August of 1999 or 2000, Kursk will be covered with water, and the whole world will be weeping over it."
Kursk was the name of a large city in Russia, also the site of the largest tank battle of WWII. Nobody could understand how the city would be covered by water but the meaning was clear on August 12, 2000, when the Russian submarine, Kursk, named after the city, suffered an explosion and left the survivors for dead at the bottom of the ocean. The Russian government did nothing to try and rescue the survivors while the British and Norwegian rescue attempts failed. Baba Vanga was even able to predict the month and a 50% chance of the year this would happen.

It should also be noted that the construction of the Kursk submarine (K-141) began immediately after it was designed in 1992 at Severodvinsk near Arkhangelsk and it was first launched in 1994. It was then first commissioned in December of that year. The design blueprints for the sub took 4 years to complete by a team of 15 professionals - 10 leading Russian military architects and engineers, and 5 non-military. Which means that the submarine was not even known of by anyone in the world in 1980; hence people's complete unknowing as to what Vanga was referring to when she made this prediction.

It would be reasonably safe to conclude that this was not an erroneous or chanced prediction, nor could it be a false prediction that she may have had some form of insider information about and was contrived on the basis of misinformation for vested interests or power control.

WTC Disaster
In 1989, Vanga stated:

Quote:
“Horror, horror! The American brethren will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be gushing.”
Many feel that the beginning of its second sentence metaphorically refers to GW Bush individually, but the word 'bush' is preceded with an incriminating association to numerous entities, and not just one. Now when some one is metaphorically said to be 'in a bush', including humans, it refers to it or them as being concealed or hidden or out of normal sight. Hence this statement has two relevant inferences in pointing out who the culprits were. One being the metaphorical expression of "sheep in wolves clothes"; howling falsely under the guise of being innocent little creatures as sheep are, but in reality they're dangerous and savage killers. The other, indicates that they howl, or communicate, whilst inside a 'bush' and in the context it is used would make reasonable reference to where these wolves lurk when they are addressing others. So what was the congressional administration called who were laying all the false blame when 911 occurred and were do they reside? I do know that The Bush administration resided in the White house, which by many is considered a house of the highest prestige and is not to be questioned.

It would be reasonably safe to again conclude that this was not an erroneous or chanced prediction irrespective as to the exact meaning of Vanga's interpretation of who the responsible party were because all of them can be reasonably referenced to metaphorical 'bush' pertaining to the family name of Bush.

Vanga predicted:
Assassination attempts in 2008

I have searched the inet and have found two slightly differing interpretations of what Vanga stated exactly in this prediction of hers as follows:


Quote:
2008 - Assassination attempts on four heads of states during conflict in Indonesia. That becomes one of the causes for the start of WWIII.


2008 - Baba Vanga speaks of conflicts in "Indonesia" leading to the upcoming WWIII, but I've seen some people say that Indonesia had been mistranslated and it's meant to read "India". This will also involve the attempted assassinations of 4 heads of state.
So I will include such occurrences that happened a year either side of 2008 as she has already exhibited that her predictions are not always ‘precise on the year she states they will occur’. With such things, if they occur one year either side of there predicted timeframe, that is by no reason for them to be out ruled as erroneous altogether. When predicting something short term, as is a decade or two in advance, most would agree that a tolerance factor of 1 year is quite good. When predicting something medium term, as in 1 or more centuries in advance, a tolerance factor of 10 years is quite good. Equally so when predicting something long term, as in 1 more millenniums in advance, a tolerance factor of 50 years would be good and a tolerance of 100years could also be acceptable.

Now in this prediction generally, there is no reference made to the direct linking of assassination attempts or the conflict in either Indonesia or India. It that I mean we cannot concisely imply that the assassinations or the conflict are events that occur as a result of one leading onto another, or that one has direct relevance or bearing on the other. All we can conclude is that they will both occur and that either one or the other or BOTH will be 'some kind of catalyst' or have 'some kind of bearing' on the onset of what will be generally considered by future generations as the start of WWIII. Keeping in mind that events like world wars are never something that can be started on an exact date or point in time, they are something that takes years to reach and can often be seen to begin long before their main thrust has impacted. WW2 did not technically begin exactly in the year of 1940 nor did the first in 1915. Conflicts and fighting had commenced in both, years before their official establishment date or year, and continued for long after their official year of cessation. Many believe that WWI never really ended till the commencement of WWII, as do also believe that WWII is still going on to this day, and as others believe that WWIII commenced in 1987 with the coup of the then exiled Ayatollah of Iran in France or with the occurrence of 911. But in all those cases that is not what the worldwide majority believe, irrespective to the fact that they only believe what they are told. What has relevance in this case though is that Vanga referred to the end of the first 2 world wars as being that which is commonly known or believed, as she has made inference to this in other talks of hers. So it would therefore be safe to say that her understanding and belief of the beginning of WWIII would be that which the masses 'or general consensus' will be in future, as it would be shown to be the year that the main thrust of its existence commenced or that official documents were signed to the effect. The scopes of her predictions are long term and as such would no doubt structure them using terminologies that will be relevant long after our time.

The following politically motivated events occurred in 2008.

Assassination attempt on 2 Heads of State:
Rebel East Timorese soldiers invaded the homes of the President and Prime Minister of East Timor on February 11, 2008, leading to the shooting and serious wounding of President José Ramos-Horta, the shooting up of the car of Prime Minister Xanana Gusmão, and the fatal shooting of rebel leader Alfredo Reinado. Gusmão was born to mestiço school teacher parents in Manatuto and attended a Jesuit high school just outside of Dili.

1 assassination attempt:
On Tuesday July 15th 2008, Mideast envoy Tony Blair called off what would have been the first visit of a top Western diplomat to Hamas-ruled Gaza, after Israel's Shin Bet security service received "pinpointed and imminent" intelligence that there was going to be an assassination attempt on his life.

1 plot in preparation for an assassination attempt:
On August 26th 2008, four people are under arrest in connection with a plot to assassinate Barack Obama at his Thursday night acceptance speech in Denver.

The following occurred in 2007:

1 assassination attempt:
On February 27, 2007, at about 10 a.m., a suicide bomber killed 23 people and wounded 20 more outside Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan during a visit by Cheney. Qari Yousef Ahmadi, a Taliban spokesman, claimed responsibility for the attack and said Cheney was its intended target.

1 assassination attempt:
On October 18th 2007 bombs exploded alongside a road in Karachi Pakistan as the convoy of former Prime Minister Bhutto passed by. Many people were killed and there were also a number of injuries. The assassination attempt was condemned by the White House, the United Pakistan Assassination Attempt Kills over 100 People.

1 assassination:
On Thursday 27th December 2007 Pakistani former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was assassinated in a suicide attack.

So if we look at the prediction from the Indonesian perspective, we have 4 assassination attempts of relevance that took place, and if we look at the prediction from the Indian perspective, we also have 4 separate assassination attempts of relevance that took place. Not forgetting that Pakistan is well within the Indian region and has in fact being in conflict with India for a long time. I would therefore tend to lend more weight to the latter perspective as it has more relevance than the first given that the Pakistan attempt was historically denoted by being followed up with a successful assassination on the same person.

It would be reasonably safe to once again conclude that this was not an erroneous or chanced prediction irrespective as to the exact meaning of Vanga's regional inference as it essentially covers both, and she may have not totally clarified the situation knowing somehow that what she said was enough to establish its being and main validity when the time was right.

Given all this, I would personally find it hard to say that she is an outright hoax.

I would like to add that total and undisputable proof of Vanga's psychic integrity, as with any seer, will be left in the hands of time. Luckily for us in this case, all we need do is wait for a couple of years, as per the two successive predictions she made after the last one I mentioned:

Quote:
2010 - The start of WWIII. The war will begin in November of 2010 and will end in October of 2014. Will start as a normal war, then will include usage of nuclear and chemical weapons.

2011 - Due to the radioactive showers in Northern Hemisphere - no animals or plants will be left. Muslims will begin chemical war against Europeans who are still alive.

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57915

[runningman]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

I also came across another pretty out there conspiracy saying that George H W Bush is really named George H Scherff Jr.. He was a Nazi who was brought over and adopted by the Bush family. It makes sense considering Prescott Bush's involvement with Nazi's (He funded them). The revelation came by Hitlers #1 Assassin man named Otto Skorzeny. Otto was about to die and said Hitler was living in the US as well as numerous other top level Nazi's that were brought over in Project Paperclip. Otto even has pictures of George back in the day!!

http://proliberty.com/observer//20070405.htm

hitlerotto.jpg
Otto with Hitler

bushmengkorz.jpg

George H Scherff Jr aka George H W Bush


It is a pretty crazy conspiracy but Otto had the pictures to back up his death bed confession. He said the Nazi's were just about done taking over the US. Also George H W Bush was the first to talk about "NWO" and other occult sayings "A thousand points of light." Also looking at the US now they resemble the Nazis' more then true Freedom.

[i!!ustrious]

Re: 2010/2011 Conspiracies

i always thought hitler posted up in argentina, then took an expedition to argharta?

his team only found certain relics in tibet, but not the guarded cache from atlantean days. he mistook a sub-race for a root-race: the aryan race is our present human race.

his reason for the holocaust was because the jews still hold a grave fiscal vicegrip on the world. ie. rothschilds, etc.