Our good ol' boys in blue

[AchtungBaby!]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

I think we have been much luckier here

Southamerica FTW!!





































Sorry, this thread was about England right?

[coleby761]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

[AchtungBaby!]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

[DIDI]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

Southamerica FTW!!







































Sorry, this thread was about England right?

You do have the best music in the world.

[AchtungBaby!]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

You do have the best music in the world.

I guess so

I think it will be better if a move myself into Robbing souls with pictures thread

Politics are not my thing.. For you people around the world, only imagine that things can always go worse.. trust me

[chunky]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

Investing in education is investing in your country. The better educated the population is the better off e

I dont have a problem with Investing in education but there isn't a bottomless pit of money. Everyone is already getting the first 11 years for free. Students don't have to pay the money back until they are earing over a certain amount of money. Like I said before people should see it as investing in themselfs.

[Shpira]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

I disagree with you on the fundamentals chunky as it is (or should be) governments job to educate the masses and direct them in such a way which would most benefit the whole country and indeed the species. That said...labours ideas of getting 40-50 % of people of age attending university was retarded. The whole thing lost a hell of a lot of value and the quality of degrees has been diluted greatly.

[chunky]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

But the government already does educate the masses. Where do you draw the line? If it was a free you could have people who instead of going out to work just jump from one Uni to another. If someone wants to leave school and start a busness no one give them money for nothing. They have to get a loan and are expected to pay it back. I see further education the same way.

[Shpira]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

well...9k a year would be where I would draw the line
I finished uni 18 months ago and I paid 1.3 K per year... I would say that's a pretty damn steep rise.
My masters in comparison is going to cost me 20k. Its the socialist in me that resists...can't seem to shake it...I should really be happy about all this for my selfish motives as with this price increase my degree becomes more valuable. I can't help thinking in terms of the general social impact though.
the main problem as I see it is that the way we function now; you have the government spending tax money on trying to improve the intelligence of the population through the educational system and then on the other end you have the general society i.e. mass media trying to encourage mediocrity, consumerism and shallow thinking. So in essence its like pissing money away; to make any real impact you would need a fundamental system change.

[DIDI]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

I dont have a problem with Investing in education but there isn't a bottomless pit of money. Everyone is already getting the first 11 years for free. Students don't have to pay the money back until they are earing over a certain amount of money. Like I said before people should see it as investing in themselfs.

Selective quoting

[bobjuice]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

I think it annoys people that there does appear to be a bottomless pit of money for some things (banks, bankers, tax dodging, wars, Tony Blair's security, royal fucking weddings) but not others (education, health, care for the elderly, care for the mentally ill).

I think the University system is in a mess in this country and needs some serious shaking up. Half of the "universities" are colleges that changed their names a few years back. In a drive to make the figures look better for unemployment amongst school leavers the govt got as many people into universities as they could. Looking now at the figures for graduate unemployment you can see they've done no more than delay the inevitable

[bobjuice]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

Mark Steel from today's Independent made me laugh

Mark Steel: A clear case of attack by wheelchair


Wednesday, 15 December 2010


The police like to set their public relations department a special Christmas challenge, don't they? Because that's the only explanation for them being filmed on the anti-fees demonstration, chucking a disabled man out of his wheelchair and shoving him along the road, unless it was to enjoy telling their PR team, "Stick a positive spin on that for us, could you?"
Ben Brown of the BBC tried his best, when he interviewed Jody McIntyre, the man who was dislodged, and said aggressively: "There's a suggestion that you were rolling in the direction of the police." Now, let's suppose this was the case (which I can't help but doubt), how much force is needed, I wonder, to stop a man with cerebral palsy who keeps rolling, even when asked to stop?
Presumably the police turned to each other in shock, spluttering: "Oh my God, he's rolling straight for us. These riot shields and helmets with visors offer woefully inadequate protection against such a persistent rolling machine. If we're lucky our batons can buy us some time, but his momentum is terrifying, it's like a cerebral palsy tsunami."
Maybe this is how to win in Afghanistan. We recruit a multiple sclerosis battalion to roll mercilessly through Helmand province and the Taliban will run away shrieking in fear.
Even as they showed the film on the news, Ben Brown said it "appeared to show Mr Mcintyre being pulled from his wheelchair", with a lingering ambiguous "appeared", as if he was going to add: "but it turned out to be a stunt staged by Derren Brown. We were misled by the power of suggestion, and when you look more closely you can see it's a butterfly landing on a petal."
This process started on the day of the demonstration, when live footage of mounted police charging into the crowd and swinging batons was accompanied by a reporter saying: "It looks as if the crowd are getting restless." This is a common disorder among news reporters, which ought to have a name such as "Confused Baton Charge Back-to-Front Bashed and Basher Syndrome". Sufferers would make novel boxing commentators, saying: "Audley Harrison is lashing out with tremendous aggression there as he stares with a blank, concussed expression into the paramedic's torch."
They might also consider Alfie Meadows, who was so restless he ended up in hospital in a critical condition, having a brain operation after being whacked with a police truncheon. It has also emerged that, when he arrived there, the police insisted he should be taken somewhere else as that hospital was to be used only by their officers. So there seems to be a misunderstanding of how hospitals work, with the Metropolitan Police under the impression they have the same system as restaurants. So you arrive unconscious, then a porter says, "Do you have a reservation?" But if it's busy you get told, "I'm sorry sir, we're fully booked this evening. The police have taken all three wards I'm afraid, but if you survive the night you're welcome to see if we've a brain surgeon available tomorrow."
And yet most coverage of the demonstration has surrounded the violence of the students. Maybe this is because most reporters and politicians believe with such fervour the police are innately honourable, and demonstrators are troublesome, they can't help but see such a one-sided view. But imagine the uproar if a policeman had needed a brain operation after being hit by a student, or if students announced that following recent events they were investigating getting a water cannon, or that a reporter might angrily ask Camilla, "But there's been a suggestion you were rolling towards the demonstrators."
Or maybe the incident with Jody McIntyre is nothing to do with students, and this is the new test for anyone on disability benefit. The police sling you on the floor, poke you about a bit, and if you manage to roll anywhere, there is clearly nothing wrong with you and you get your payments cut.

[Dhar_2]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

[chunky]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

I think it annoys people that there does appear to be a bottomless pit of money for some things (banks, bankers, tax dodging, wars, Tony Blair's security, royal fucking weddings) but not others (education, health, care for the elderly, care for the mentally ill).

I understand why people are pissed off at the banks, however if I'm employed to do an job and given targets to make and I make them targets, I expect the person who employed me to meet their end of the agreement. I got screwed over last year. I had a meeting with my employer at the beginning of the year and we agreed targets I had to achieve throughout the year and the rewards for achieving these targets. We reviewed them at regular intervals. I then spent the next 12 months working my arse off and achieved all the targets I had to to reach for both my bonus and my pay rise, only for my employer to tell me they couldn't meet the agreement. I may as well of spent half the day in the toilet and the other half exchanging extreme porn and happy slapping videos on my mobile phone and not given a shit, like some of my colleague's.

[Shpira]

Re: Our good ol' boys in blue

I think it annoys people that there does appear to be a bottomless pit of money for some things (banks, bankers, tax dodging, wars, Tony Blair's security, royal fucking weddings) but not others (education, health, care for the elderly, care for the mentally ill).

I think the University system is in a mess in this country and needs some serious shaking up. Half of the "universities" are colleges that changed their names a few years back. In a drive to make the figures look better for unemployment amongst school leavers the govt got as many people into universities as they could. Looking now at the figures for graduate unemployment you can see they've done no more than delay the inevitable

What people in the UK seem not to realise is that the Tax payer has/will actually make money on the bank bailout. That said I agree on broad strokes,