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Re: WikiRebels -- The Documentary (Wikileaks) by SvT
Not likely. Daniel Domscheit-Berg who used to work for wikileaks is part of the founding team. A bunch of people were pissed at Assange even before the whole Apache video and the current Cablegate docs were released and quit in protested because they thought Assange was becoming too much of a media figurehead and working on his image than running the site properly, so this has been coming for a while.
Plus Berg is German and is a member of the German CCC which is the oldest hacking group in the world. I think hes doing this more as an information wants to be free thing than as a bought out puppet for anyone.
Unlike WikiLeaks, OpenLeaks will not publish documents. Instead, it will operate as an online dropbox, creating an infrastructure to deliver documents securely and anonymously directly to journalists and other outlets — such as human rights organizations, labor unions, non-governmental oversight groups — that choose to participate.
Sources will not be able to submit documents directly through the OpenLeaks website. Instead, participating media outlets and others will be able to include links on their websites for submissions that will be delivered through the OpenLeaks-designed architecture.
The plan is similar to a failed proposal that WikiLeaks had submitted to the Knight Foundation News Challenge grant in 2009. WikiLeaks had sought $530,000 from the foundation to build an anonymous submission system that would be linked through local newspaper websites, allowing sources to submit documents related to local issues. The receiving newspaper would have exclusive access to the documents for a period of time before WikiLeaks published the documents on its own website. The Knight Foundation rejected the application.
OpenLeaks plans to expand this concept beyond local newspapers and will give the recipient an unspecified amount of time to research the document and write a story. If that time passes without a story, OpenLeaks will be able to pass the documents to another recipient specified by the source to ensure that documents don’t sit in a drawer or become buried because of pressure from a government.
OpenLeaks will then publish links to any stories produced from the documents, avoiding legal repercussions that might come from publishing the documents themselves.
Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, said the setup would make OpenLeaks more of an internet service provider than a publisher.
Re: WikiRebels -- The Documentary (Wikileaks) by SvT
Originally posted by res0nat0r
Not likely. Daniel Domscheit-Berg who used to work for wikileaks is part of the founding team. A bunch of people were pissed at Assange even before the whole Apache video and the current Cablegate docs were released and quit in protested because they thought Assange was becoming too much of a media figurehead and working on his image than running the site properly, so this has been coming for a while.
Plus Berg is German and is a member of the German CCC which is the oldest hacking group in the world. I think hes doing this more as an information wants to be free thing than as a bought out puppet for anyone.
Thats precisely the usual MD. They discredit the original group by saying:
a.) they weren't hardcore enough
b.) their motives were bad
c.) they didn't agree with the direction it was taking
So they open their own group...grab 50% of the original group sources and people and immediately make the original group less relevant...only one of the bunch and with less resources less of a threat.
i have no evidence for this BTW it was just the thought I had as soon as I heard about openleaks.
TheIdiotsAREWinning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
Re: WikiRebels -- The Documentary (Wikileaks) by SvT
Originally posted by Shpira
Thats precisely the usual MD. They discredit the original group by saying:
a.) they weren't hardcore enough
b.) their motives were bad
c.) they didn't agree with the direction it was taking
So they open their own group...grab 50% of the original group sources and people and immediately make the original group less relevant...only one of the bunch and with less resources less of a threat.
i have no evidence for this BTW it was just the thought I had as soon as I heard about openleaks.
They didnt say this, they said they were annoyed Assange started to become more of a cult of personality type, than a guy just trying to release as many damming docs are possible. They are not 'discrediting' anything, they just thought the site revolved around more and more of a dictator doing things to fuel his image than getting info out is all. Also technically the original site is 'less relevant', since its main figurehead is sitting in jail right now, by his own doing, by making himself such a public focus of the site. But to his credit Assange did this because he thought it would make the site have more impact, which I think it for sure has worked. This is the whole reason the 2nd site is being created, to not have it be the focus of one person.
I wish I could find the articles I read a good while ago about everyone being annoyed at how he was acting behind the scenes, and being accusatory of everyone leaking info to the press, and him being exactly the opposite of open to his co-workers.
Some (I don't know really how many or exact names of these guys b/c I don't remember) quit the group long before 99% of the world even heard of this site, it is not like it is a new thing. I remember reading about fallout in the ranks before it became such huge news around the world with the release of the 2 big US stories.
Either way...if this new site release more docs, more often (and only time will tell right), then it will be doing its job just fine then right?
Re: WikiRebels -- The Documentary (Wikileaks) by SvT
Wikileaks goes back to cypherpunk. Look it up if you want to know the origins of Assange and Wikileaks. Don't just think that documentary is revealing it all.
Here is an interview of the guy that first started Wikileaks. John Young is the founder of Cryptome.
Wikileaks raised $5 Million in a few weeks. John explains that from the beginning it was corrupt.
If you are prejudice towards Alex you can watch it here on RT.
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