Chinese Pianist Plays Anti-American Song at White House State Dinner

[runningman]

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yes china needs our oil. china hates the US. China wants to take down the US.

[res0nat0r]

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yes china needs our oil. china hates the US. China wants to take down the US.

Canada is like the US but on the Metric system. Therefore China also hates Canada.

[runningman]

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No we are like a little blurp in the world. well a blurp that has a lot of resources.

[88Mariner]

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I would be careful not fall into that line of thinking. The fundamentals of international relations theory dictate that the inter state relations have no rules i.e. the international stage despite everything is in a state of anarchy as there is no generally accepted rules or laws that govern state behaviour. Only conventions which can be broken without much real repercussions. So this in essence means that its every man for him self or more accurately every state for itself.

So by this logic; both Russia and China seek to challenge (and are doing a good job so far) the US hegemony. this is done by just simple defiance and acting against US interests. this is by no means hostile or new...the US has acted in this way since it was founded and history is full of examples in which the US cooperates with a government while it suits them while criticizing them or even waging war when it doesn't.

IMO the US should buck up and play its strengths more while downplaying its weaknesses. I am slightly scared though; every time in history a countrys hegemony was challenged it precipitate a large scale military conflict.

i guess we'll just have to see.

to phrase it differently, when there is no hegemony, war is the result. the rest of the world is witnessing the weakness of our beta 'leaders'.

[floridaorange]

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Speaking at a TED Salon in London, economist Martin Jacques asks: How do we in the West make sense of China and its phenomenal rise? The author of "When China Rules the World," he examines why the West often puzzles over the growing power of the Chinese economy, and offers three building blocks for understanding what China is and will become.

[floridaorange]

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^compelling and fascinating btw.

[runningman]

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There are so many things wrong with what Martin Jock said where do I start...

It`s funny he could talk for 20 mins about China and never even mention human rights. But that is to be expected from a pro communist speaking forum like TED.

``What gives the Chinese the sense of what the Chinese are``-is that they are slaves to the state not the shit he says. God everything in that lecture is utter rubbish. If the US would just stop shopping at Walmart China would collapse. He acts like the average Chinese person has a say in what the county does.

Hitler would love this TED forum. Listen to what he says from 1940-2100.. It is nothing but communist spin... We must welcome it.... hahah ya fucking right Goebbels

[Shpira]

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i don't think there is anything wrong with Communism...that said China is NOT Communist.

Using "communist" as a derogatory term just shows how ignorant you are about political ideologies and how brainwashed you are by the anti socialist hysteria which has been implemented systematically on the North American continent since the end of WW2 by the social "elites" scared of wealth distribution and loss of influence..

Furthermore...the west as a whole has lost its right to criticize anyone's human record.

If the US would just stop shopping at Walmart China would collapse.

I can see you did well in economics lol

[88Mariner]

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i don't think there is anything wrong with Communism...that said China is NOT Communist.

Using "communist" as a derogatory term just shows how ignorant you are about political ideologies and how brainwashed you are by the anti socialist hysteria which has been implemented systematically on the North American continent since the end of WW2 by the social "elites" scared of wealth distribution and loss of influence..

Furthermore...the west as a whole has lost its right to criticize anyone's human record.

I can see you did well in economics lol

"i can see you did well in economics"

are you being ironic?

of COURSE you don't have a problem with communism.


::looks @ avatar::


lmao at your dedication to the monopoly of violent force


srsly though. L M A O.

[Shpira]

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LOL @ monopoly of violent force. lol

yeah don't think that would be it mate...maybe read marx and engels "the communist manifesto" it is a classic read...
anyway..you in the US have this aversion to the very word because you have these preconceived ideas about what it involves and how its implemented. This is one of the main reasons your country is fucked (and i mean that in the nicest possible way)
i believe that an ideal society is something like Norway/Sweeden etc...a social democracy...high taxes, excellent government service, great value for money, no corruption...high levels of education...we should all be striving for the advancement of our society and humanity as whole rather than being short sighted fools only caring about having a bmw in the garage. . .
My familly was very rich before the communists came to my country...when they came to power we donated everything. After the commies left...we all made our mark pretty quickly...I think people tend to forget...that money is a means to an end not an end on its own...

[runningman]

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You can't say Sweden is the best country because of its socialism and the US sucks because of its capitalism. The US was the fastest growing country with the most opportunity for a hundred years before the Federal Reserve came in and fucked things up for ya. Don't blame capitalism because of some suicidal bankers in the US. It isn't the US's fault it is the Federal Reserves.

One good point about Zeitgeist Moving Forward is that how can the world be gridlocked in debt? The world powers could always just come out and wave the interest/debt. A superpower like the US with no real military competition could just say "Hey we are wiping the world debts clean" and have everyone start back at 0. I think that would solve all problems not moving to a more communist/slave world.

Also I did very well in Economics - Capitalism > Communism for the average human being... Proof is the last 150 of innovation in the freer world and the how slavery is still alive today in the communist nation

[Shpira]

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communist/slave world

...you really can't help it can you

there is no such thing as communism....there is a variation on the idea... but China has NEVER been communist.
in the freer world...what exactly do you mean by that? In fact most innovations we enjoy today have their roots in national socialist Germany...which doesn't mean anything...its the same if it were the other way around.

Anyway...running man...come on think logicically...all those big business and elitist that fuck the world on a daily basis fo a mere penny extra are the same bastards who paid big money to instil this anti "communist" movement into the minds of the average citizens...because at the end of the day....in a country as wealthy as the US if all share its not the average citizen that will loose out...its the uber rich and corporations.

Senator McCarthy and the likes were all sponsored by big business and banks...

p.s. bear in mind...I work in finance and already make more than an average person in the UK...i would give it up in a heartbeat...just a job and just money...I am all for a revolution.

[Shpira]

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You can't say Sweden is the best country because of its socialism and the US sucks because of its capitalism

never said that...i just wanted to demonstrate that things are not black and white...mostly grey in fact. A mix between the two is what is needed

[trick12]

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all those big business and elitist that fuck the world on a daily basis fo a mere penny extra are the same bastards who paid big money to instil this anti "communist" movement into the minds of the average citizens...because at the end of the day....in a country as wealthy as the US if all share its not the average citizen that will loose out...its the uber rich and corporations.

rational thought

[runningman]

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I see what you are saying but you can't deny the facts. The facts are that free minds are more innovative. China is a slave nation call it what you want. And rather than us pushing our ideals on them we are taking their ideals and bringing them to the west (lower wages, censorship, lower human rights, torture....)

Soon people that are in debt in the west will have to give a kidney or liver to get out of debt just like China. Don't be fooled into thinking that capitalism is to blame. It is east to do when times are bad. But taking the chinese model will only make it worse. Also a major problem in the US is that people aren't investing their money just like here in Canada. When I go around looking for more money for my product people are too afraid of the risk. Now if you are a government employee under 30 making $80,000 you almost should be forced into investing into startups. That should be law IMO because job security has taken the place of risk. Not hoarding it so you can buy a $400,000 Apartment closer to work. That is just stupid. Being a government employee you are a leach on the system. You should be forced to invest 10% of your money (If you make over $60,000) into startups that you see fit. 5% if you make less then $60,000

Innovation is at a gridlock. It takes roughly $1.5 million to bring a serious idea to the world (and that is just to start) global ideas take at least $25 million. And in todays world it must be global or it is nothing worth investing in. So the question is where do you get the $1.5 million from?