I'm working on a documentary

**Steve Graham** · February 2, 2011, 12:27:06 PM

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this isn't the first time he's acted this way Kamal

**DancingQueen** · February 2, 2011, 12:43:41 PM

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Originally posted by Steve Graham

this isn't the first time he's acted this way Kamal

^^^This

**Shpira** · February 2, 2011, 12:57:56 PM

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just went through his posts..can't find any real flaming...maybe he just dislikes the art...let it be i say.

**Kat** · February 2, 2011, 01:13:26 PM

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let's gut the prick

j/k

remember, the vibe he is putting out is gonna come back to him one way or another 100%
so you can actually feel sorry for the guy

or whatever...

**pumper&dumper** · February 2, 2011, 01:54:27 PM

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I totally disagree with the project and think it's unacceptable to ask people to 'donate' (a word usually associated with charity) towards a personal project in the toughest times of our generation. If the project was to fund a conservation effort in a 3rd world country he'd have my blessing but it isn't. The reaction is because it's an unthoughtful thing to do at this time. There are many people who will read it who haven't got a job and have been made redundant. Requesting funding for things like this should be done amongst friends on a personal one to one level. It's so unbelievably cheeky to send out a global message for help which has no charitable benefit.

**Kat** · February 2, 2011, 02:00:56 PM

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^^now that is what i call an opinnion. see you can do it nicely

**DancingQueen** · February 2, 2011, 03:02:30 PM

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Originally posted by pumper&dumper

I totally disagree with the project and think it's unacceptable to ask people to 'donate' (a word usually associated with charity) towards a personal project in the toughest times of our generation. If the project was to fund a conservation effort in a 3rd world country he'd have my blessing but it isn't. The reaction is because it's an unthoughtful thing to do at this time. There are many people who will read it who haven't got a job and have been made redundant. Requesting funding for things like this should be done amongst friends on a personal one to one level. It's so unbelievably cheeky to send out a global message for help which has no charitable benefit.

Jeff has been apart of this community for a long time, and there are some people on here that I am sure he considers friends so that is why he posted it. He is not forcing anyone to help him, he is simply sharing something he is passionate about with us and there is nothing wrong with it.

Despite the issues with the economy etc., it is no reason to attack someone or bash something they are passionate about. Simply bite your tongue, leave the thread, and carry on about your day.

**floridaorange** · February 2, 2011, 03:42:59 PM

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Ummm people look for funding for movie projects from other ARTISTS all the time. If one person has interest and the funds to dontate, great, if nobody does, great, but ASKING is never wrong.

Just ask highsteppa or anyone else in this industry, it's very common. No harm no foul by Jeff.

Personally I found the project interesting and who knows who else it may also inspire on here to create something similar one day, or whatever.

Just because art isn't important to you, do not assume it is not important to anyone else.

/rant

**DIDI** · February 2, 2011, 08:04:39 PM

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^^^ But they are asking other artists. While I don't think there is anything wrong with asking, the timing is a little insensitive. I also think the "piss off if you don't agree" attitude expressed here is a tad unfair.

It's people discussing and having different opinions that gets things done in this world.

Btw Jeffrey, if you didn't want this spread over the net, putting up that link probably wasn't the best move.

I also looked through back posts and didn't find anything particularly offensive , and that has got to be worth something with my rep

**Steve Graham** · February 2, 2011, 08:10:58 PM

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so, because the economy is bad people are to not ask for donations for a project their working? lol, that's a tad unfair
and kickstarter is a GREAT programme

**DIDI** · February 2, 2011, 08:21:33 PM

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I wasn't referring to the economy and you will note I did say I don't think it's not wrong to ask

But at the moment so many people around the world are dying and really, really need help. But this is my personal opinion.

A few years ago my opinion would have been pretty much the same as pumperdumper. But over the years I have come to realise the importance of art in a spiritual way. We need it. !! But now a lot of people are just fighting for actual survival and my charity dollar is limited. Actually instead of giving credits and dvds , putting on shows for charity might have been a better idea. That's constructive

**mnbvcxz** · February 3, 2011, 05:31:07 AM

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I can't believe the stuff I am reading. Jeffrey is putting the word out on a passion project of his. He is not forcing anyone to donate. He is not spamming. He is not forcing anyone to even read this thread. What difference does it make what else is going on in the world or if the economy is bad? I just don't see the relevance!

Originally posted by DIDI

But at the moment so many people around the world are dying and really, really need help. But this is my personal opinion.

Then do something about it, instead of suggesting this is what Jeffrey should be concentrating on.

**Steve Graham** · February 3, 2011, 09:36:40 AM

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now this thread is making ME lol

I really can not see the connection between someone trying to fund a project and people around the world dying and really really needing help as if everything else is supposed to stop moving forward until everyone in the world is safe, unbelievable
if that's the way you TRULY feel, maybe the next time you want to go spend money on cover at a club or buy booze or cigarettes, YOU should think about the people around the world that could use that money? if not, then get off your high fucking horse and keep that shit to yourself

**picklemonkey** · February 3, 2011, 11:54:16 AM

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Didi, your purple name color means you're a recent donor

**toasty** · February 3, 2011, 02:07:18 PM

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I guess the point that some people are trying to make is that the question is not so much "was P&D's post the pinnacle of nastiness," it's "was that intended to be part of a dialog, or was it just being mean-spirited for the hell of it?" Seems to me this is closer to being mean-spirited, and then the question becomes, "is this really what you want?" There was a period in 2007-08, I think -- and there have ben others, as well -- where people pretty much just let the venom fly, and I gotta say, those weren't really fun times to be around here.

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