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  • 88Mariner
    My dick is smaller
    • Nov 2006
    • 7128

    #31
    Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

    Originally posted by res0nat0r
    words...words...more words.

    Socialism wont work because people are inherently self centered and mainly only looking out for #1. End of story.
    Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely. Except when you feel that it can't happen, and therefore wont't.
    you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

    it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

    Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

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    • res0nat0r
      Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
      • May 2006
      • 14475

      #32
      Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

      Originally posted by 88Mariner
      Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely. Except when you feel that it can't happen, and therefore wont't.
      +1

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      • runningman
        Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
        • Jun 2004
        • 5995

        #33
        Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

        you didn't need the National Guard to deliver water and food. News helicopters could have done that. You don't need thousands of troops for that. Once you guys realize the gov't isn't the answer to everything you will be better off

        Do you see the brainwashing?

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        • res0nat0r
          Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
          • May 2006
          • 14475

          #34
          Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

          news helicoptors cover the news.
          the national guard delivers water and food.
          thats how it works.

          are you fucking high again?

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          • runningman
            Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
            • Jun 2004
            • 5995

            #35
            Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

            No soldiers kill. the national guard isn't the salvation army or red cross. Fool

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            • trick12
              Are you Kidding me??
              • Jul 2007
              • 4412

              #36
              Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

              Life's pretty fast..blup..blup...We made it!!

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              • Shpira
                Angry Boy Child
                • Oct 2006
                • 4969

                #37
                Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                Originally posted by res0nat0r
                words...words...more words.

                Socialism wont work because people are inherently self centered and mainly only looking out for #1. End of story.
                seems to work for Sweden and words ARE the tool people use to form an argument; maybe you can try it some time.
                The Idiots ARE Winning.


                "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
                Mark Twain

                SOBRIETY MIX

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                • 88Mariner
                  My dick is smaller
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 7128

                  #38
                  Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                  Originally posted by Shpira
                  No but you dismissing things like communism as pure evil when in reality you know jack shit about just like you know jack shit about che. You got your info from a red scare pamphlet which you read whilst taking a dump.
                  Red Scare Pamphlet? I wasn't born during the McCarthy Era. That aside, you purposefully ignore every problem created by totalitarian governments. "it just can't happen because i FEEL it can't happen."

                  Funny, if you were a nazi, you'd be saying the same thing. Or a fascist.


                  What i meant to say is that you have these established ideas in your society that are never questioned and if they are the individual who brought that up is discredited as some kind of a loony. If you want to joke about it go ahead...i personally find it funnier...as you live it.
                  Well you are some sort of loony. The more you whine about the merits of servitude to government, the more retarded I think you really could be.

                  To me, Life is Good. Death is Bad. Ownership is Good. Theft is Bad.

                  To you, Slavery is good, Freedom is bad. Subservience to government officials is good, dissent is bad. Government ownership of everything is good, private ownership is evil. People who are government officials can always be trusted, people who do not work in the government can never be trusted.

                  .

                  ever heard of the "end of history"? I do not have any problems that you know of lol
                  By fukuyama? Yeah. And on 9/11, it was completely bitch-slapped in the face and discredited in total. And now, it very much looks like the "end of history" was merely the beginning of the end and not the end itself.





                  How do you "know"? Again did your father/grand father know this when he was a young man??
                  My guess would be no for at least one...because your society and its values EVOLVED.
                  Yes, our values evolved from servitude to the few in power, to freedom from them. You propose we should go back to be owned by a few self-appointed government agents.

                  and in 50 years who knows we may be killing people due to over population and no one will say a word because it will be the norm....again proving that its ALL RELATIVE. fuck i am getting sick of this shit...
                  Yes, killing is not ok now. but it will be ok in the future!
                  Rape is not ok now. but rape could be acceptable in the future

                  That's the problem with your relativism. You can justify murder of anyone at any time.



                  You are? Really? Than why the fuck are you online? There are such outright crimes against freedom happening right now in your country and you are not doing jack shit about it...instead you are "championing" freedom on an internet forum...please...give me a break.
                  I'm online because some damn fool might read your mental diarrhea and consider it valid.

                  But it's also a pussy move on your part to say "oh, shouldn't you be doing other things than making me your bitch????"





                  to answer simply. NO.

                  Throughout you find references of ARGUMENTS ...there is no set definition because the idea is constantly being contested as it should be...but not by intellectual giants such as yourself.

                  Yeah, the wiki article is going to include people who think rights don't exist. The right to do something is the freedom to act without government intrusion.

                  Some people believe that "rights" are GRANTED to people by government bureaucrats. Namely, people like you. And so we must plead, bribe, lobby, and persuade government officials for freedom. In essence, your 'theory' is that man is a slave to the government who gets more rights depending on his application status. Kinda like how the house slave has more 'liberty' than the field slave.

                  Yeah, i guess being a slave is like having 'rights'.

                  For example...you can even argue that it is your RIGHT to kill someone...but for that right you pay a fee...in time spent in prison or money on a lawyer...its an equally valid argument to yours...because its all fucking bullshit.
                  You seem to think that there is a set of divine rights or something...?
                  I can't argue there is a right to kill someone. There is no right to deprive someone of their life (i.e. their own property). Are you fucking mental? did the whole "right to swing my fist ends at your face" not slap you hard enough?

                  So not only have you justified slavery.

                  You have justified murder, rape, and pretty much any other crime against the individual.

                  And you've justified theft, too. And other crimes against property.






                  Not sure where this fits in? We generally have hospitals for sick people over here...don't you have that over there or are they just fried for being "bad"?
                  Why not nationalize food service too? What's wrong with that? Nationalize everything, and there will be no more problems. Unicorn farts will supply your energy too!



                  you are being obtuse...because we all co-exist and the thing you do today will impact me and my children and my children children....not to mention everything else. Its all interconnected. So some kind of system is necessary to make sure that all the things that we are lucky to have today sill be here in a 10 or 1000 years...pretty fucking obvious...
                  Right, your voting for the slavery of my children is where i draw the line. Because you could vote for that, and it could happen. You could rationalize the murder of my children. the rape of my daughter. and so forth. "it's all relative"

                  fucking brilliant.

                  Better, you intend to steal my kids house (you have made it quite clear that confiscation of property is pretty much the first thing that will happen in your ideal society).

                  you're a mess. and you must hate your children to have them suffer through such a dystopian future.



                  I am not taking anyone anywhere mate...you must visit a professional.
                  you know what's funny? my wife is a doctor. she and her family fled the soviet union because of persecution. maybe i should have you sit down with her so she can bitch slap you more violently than i have. because she will. I promise. And it'll leave a mark. fair warning.


                  No i am excusing your warped world view, lack of historical knowledge, lack of anything new or any coherent idea on your education, society, tv etc...all those sources of information that shaped your young brain before it was capable to filter information (assuming it is capable now)
                  Historical knowledge according to who? the communisty party? incoherent ideas because they are in discord with your party?

                  If i lived in your ideal society, i would have been executed many times over already. But you don't care, because i'm merely a slave to the government, an expendable asset that upon becoming a liability may be dispensed with, an impediment to 'social progress'.



                  so if they can cure cancer but that means that you can't eat ice cream ever...thats an "inherently bad thing" right...
                  you can take away someone's ice cream cone. you can take away their liberty arbitrarily. you can murder them. you're sick in the head. so embarrassingly sick.


                  again...lack of any real understanding...you just shit on your mouth and your keyboard turns it into words.
                  IN your mind, there is a pure future of warmness, fuzziness, unicorns, everyone is happy, dancing around the big ol bonfire. your magical thinking is, and always has been, at odds with history and reality itself.


                  But of course, to you, that could NEVER understand the that truth.Because your illusions of utopian purity could never mean that is true. Again, teleological problems are ones you must MUST address first.




                  more bullshit...your presumptions entirely...never mentioned any of this. This is actually a good example of what i was saying above...you have been conditioned to associate certain ideas with others...and even you are incapable of identifying this.
                  Yes, it is "I" who is 'conditioned'. Your explanation for people who do not believe like you do is "they are clearly brainwashed." You can't possibly contemplate people having their own thought because your worldview does not permit such things. Therefore it MUST be brainwashing.

                  Everything you've said basically amounts to projection.



                  LOL at this whole paragraph..."my ideas" you have no clue what my ideas are let alone that any of what i believe in was ever applied. Again you are associating one thing to another...just because I admire one person for one trait they posses does not mean that i agree with everything else. Once again your absolute world view comes into play and your delusions run havoc
                  I have a good clue of what your ideas are. A person who does not respect property rights, a person who does not respect individual rights, a person who believes man is a slave to the government to the extent that he is useful. Time and again I run into misfits like yourself who think they 'know' what's best for everyone else but who reject history because 'something that is so pure can't be wrong.'





                  This doesn't even make sense! Ruin the economy? If you presume (as you clearly do) that i am some kind of left hardliner with a portrait of Stalin above my bed you still couldn't argue that such a society would go bankrupt. Where in the hell did you get that? More conditioning coming into play.
                  now you're being apologetic. A person who has been toting the line of totalitarianism is telling [i]moi[/] that they are not a 'hardliner'?

                  el - oh - el

                  Again, here's that tiresome "you're just conditioned" mentality. Well if that's the case, I'm kinda glad i'm insulated from thinking that murder might be acceptable in the future, that crimes against persons or property is sometimes justified, that i exit for my government only so long as I make myself useful to a few people who deem me useful.





                  This is what i mean by wiring...you are INCAPABLE of separating yourself from your nation state and the ideas that have been force fed to you from all sides hence you are a SLAVE and you will never be free...
                  "force fed" there we are again. it's funny, i've actually had to turn of the leftist noise machine to think more clearly about things.

                  FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
                  STRENGHT IS WEAKNESS
                  CONSUMERISM IS EXPLOITATION

                  really laughable if it weren't so violent in its application.


                  If any kind of socialist society was introduced...(and please look up the meaning to the word "socialist") who would be the ones that stand to loose the most?
                  anyone who owns property. anyone who has fought for, produced and maintained value.

                  you know who wouldn't lose? government officials. banksters. lobbyists.

                  "oh, but Mariner, the close ties between wall street and D.C. ...that's just silly talk."

                  lol


                  All the large privately owned businesses such but not exclusive...your media outlets...so if there is once thing ALL big business in the US agreed upon during WW2 its that communism must be stopped at ALL cost and you my friend are the champion of their cause. Good luck to you...
                  All businesses are, by definition, private.

                  Who is to decide what is a 'large' business and a small business? Some dude who arbitrarily makes a number up. But how can we trust him? Because he's a government official.

                  Media outlets will now be government run. But tha'ts a GOOD thing because now the'll HAVE to spit out government propoganda. Which is funny, because you've been railing against it all along, and now you seek to merge government into media itself. Hey, that's efficient at least!

                  Yeah, look how great communism benefit all the soviet people. Except the 25-60 million innocent people they killed. But ignore that because socialism will be good!
                  you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                  it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                  Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                  ----PEACE-----

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                  • res0nat0r
                    Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                    • May 2006
                    • 14475

                    #39
                    Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                    Originally posted by Shpira
                    seems to work for Sweden and words ARE the tool people use to form an argument; maybe you can try it some time.


                    I did. See the last 2 sentences of my quote there.

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                    • 88Mariner
                      My dick is smaller
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 7128

                      #40
                      Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                      Originally posted by runningman
                      No soldiers kill. the national guard isn't the salvation army or red cross. Fool
                      so soldiers can never be used for humanitarian missions ever?

                      oh boy.....
                      you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                      it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                      Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                      ----PEACE-----

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                      • runningman
                        Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 5995

                        #41
                        Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                        no soldiers are trained killers. train an emergency crew of 3500 humanitarians then for emergency use. they can only care a pistol and water and food and medicine.

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                        • res0nat0r
                          Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
                          • May 2006
                          • 14475

                          #42
                          Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                          Originally posted by runningman
                          no soldiers are trained killers. train an emergency crew of 3500 humanitarians then for emergency use. they can only care a pistol and water and food and medicine.
                          well thats pretty dumb.

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                          • runningman
                            Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 5995

                            #43
                            Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                            the definition of a soldier- One who serves in an army.

                            Definition of US Army - United States Army: the army of the United States of America; the agency that organizes and trains soldiers for land warfare






                            Now where in there does it say humanitarians?


                            No Reso you are dumb.. get it right... I can't believe I'm gonna ask but why are humanitarians dumb ?

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                            • 88Mariner
                              My dick is smaller
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 7128

                              #44
                              Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                              Originally posted by res0nat0r
                              I did. See the last 2 sentences of my quote there.
                              Oh I wonder....how many new jobs the swedish private sector has produced in the last 50 years? But, what about the creation of new business in sweden? any idea what percentage of the work force did not work and lived off public welfare, on average, in the last 10 years? how far have they dropped in the OECD index? How much richer is sweden than, say, alabama? what about their immigration issues? Where does thier labor freedoms stand on the world index? how much disposable income do swedes have compared to their other european neighbors?


                              well....at least they got rid of their death tax.
                              you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                              it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                              Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                              ----PEACE-----

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                              • 88Mariner
                                My dick is smaller
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 7128

                                #45
                                Re: Oh the Hypocrisy of the US

                                Originally posted by runningman
                                the definition of a soldier- One who serves in an army.

                                Definition of US Army - United States Army: the army of the United States of America; the agency that organizes and trains soldiers for land warfare






                                Now where in there does it say humanitarians?


                                No Reso you are dumb.. get it right
                                So you're saying soldiers can NEVER do humanitarian work?


                                So when soldiers ARE doing humanitarian work, they cease being defined as soldiers and thenceforth through the duration of their humanitarian assitance, they are not called soldiers but "aid workers?"
                                you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                                it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                                Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                                ----PEACE-----

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