Libya

[DIDI]

Re: Libya

I know it's not the US's problem, but when we live in a time when the world continues to shrink, it's everyone's problem.

While the idealist in me agrees with this, I have to ask, when has this

someone (USA) needs to get the fuck in there pronto and stop the stupid killing

stopped the killing??

[chunky]

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firefox is a web.

I know, I use it

[Kamal]

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That's the thing though, reports have come out and have stated that planes have not been used to kill innocent civilians, protestors. Although planes have been used on armed anti government fighters. If this is the case then the use of military aircraft would be just.

wow I just completely lost interest in reading the rest of your post after reading that sentence. Other than the collection of "armed/trained" Libyans who have defected to the anti-government movement, who do you suppose IS the anti-government movement? In your blind detest for all things America, it clearly seems you'd rather let innocent people get intentionally killed by a moronic dictator rather than have an external influence try to come in and help them liberate themselves with the possibility of having accidental casualties of war.

[Kamal]

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While the idealist in me agrees with this, I have to ask, when has this



stopped the killing??

if isn't the US, it's someone else who's doing it. I would seriously implore on the lot of you not to take Bush's profit mongering decision machine as that of the US. It got to the point that Republicans wanted him out at the end of the 8th year, that should tell you something.

[Shpira]

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^^...and things are different now??

[Kamal]

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Wait, who have the US attacked now (unless you're referring to something else)? Yes the mess still exists, but that doesn't mean the change has to be ignored.

[Shpira]

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what change? Is the US still in Iraq and Afghanistan years after the retard has been expelled? What is the REAL change? Please tell me as I cannot see ANYTHING worth a mention.

[Kamal]

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what change? Is the US still in Iraq and Afghanistan years after the retard has been expelled? What is the REAL change? Please tell me as I cannot see ANYTHING worth a mention.

What were you expecting Shpira? Did you expect Merlin to waive his wand and magically rid the wrongdoings of the past? Let's not get into the Afghanistan / Iraq problem because the U.S. leaving will be worse. Of course if the U.S. left, the world would continue to point fingers and say "They came, they raped and pillaged, and they left". People in the U.S. don't like what's happening there any more than the rest of the world. I have friends who are there and their families dread it. So it's not like the US is having a party at someone else's gravesite.

And as far as change, international relations started to improve since Obama stepped in so that is a start. No one even wanted to see Bush. Heck even in the U.S. during a naming poll for a Sewage Treatment facility, majority of the Polls wanted to name it after George W. Jr.

You're very concise in your opinions (which is a good thing), but shit give credit when it's due. There are nations that do and nations that complain. Yes every "action" will have a critic and the actions of the past are beyond stupidity, but why blanket everything with the past.

[runningman]

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Russia says that the US hasn't proven that the planes have been bombing their own people. There is an interview on the net with a Russian Defense minister saying that it looks fake. If there was proof the US would be at the UN with their proof and NATO would have already been in Libya.

[res0nat0r]

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if you dont believe the libyan gov't is killing its own citizens to hold on to power well then you are dumb.

[runningman]

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If you don't believe the US is supplying arms to the rebels to perform a coup then you are dumb. God you are so basic in your thinking. They are killing rebels that are trying to overthrow the gov't. Do you think Obama would do anything different if the Militia's started shooting?

This is Italy's problem not the US's.

[DIDI]

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if isn't the US, it's someone else who's doing it. I would seriously implore on the lot of you not to take Bush's profit mongering decision machine as that of the US. It got to the point that Republicans wanted him out at the end of the 8th year, that should tell you something.

Err I hate to say this but I am going back over 40 years.

[i!!ustrious]

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time on target!

libya: come at me bro! ***

[dig72]

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wow I just completely lost interest in reading the rest of your post after reading that sentence. Other than the collection of "armed/trained" Libyans who have defected to the anti-government movement, who do you suppose IS the anti-government movement?

WTF are you on about. You stated, "But fuck if Gadaffi is firing rockets into innocent people", and by innocent, I assume you meant peaceful and non violent protestors or ordinary civilians going abouts their daily lives.

The reported firing of rockets by Libyan jets have been directed at armed anti government forces. What would you expect the Libyan government to do in a situation like this? What would your government do?

As your blind detest for all things America, it clearly seems you'd rather let innocent people get intentionally killed by a moronic dictator rather than have an external influence try to come in and help them liberate themselves with the possibility of having accidental casualties of war

You are full of complete and utter bullshit in terms of what I stand for and what I believe. Go ahead and back up just a single one of those pathetic claims that you make.

And just when I thought I've heard it all, you then come out with an absolute gem like, "someone (USA) needs to get the fuck in there pronto and stop the stupid killing."

I mean fucking hell, on what planet have you been living, seriously? Iraq, Aghanistan, Pakistan and you want the US the "stop" the stupid killings?

Hell, even Kissinger and Cheney would be having a little chuckle at that one.

Fark me.

[res0nat0r]

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WTF are you on about. You stated, "But fuck if Gadaffi is firing rockets into innocent people", and by innocent, I assume you meant peaceful and non violent protestors or ordinary civilians going abouts their daily lives.

WTF are you on about?

Let me put this in terms you can relate to:

What if you and your friends started protesting that the Australian gov't stop brewing Fosters, stop selling boomerangs and also burn every DVD ever made starring Paul Hogan. During this protest the Australian Police started shooting you and your friends because they deemed this protest harmful to their government interests. This must be perfectly acceptable by you, following your logic above, no?