Libya

[Kamal]

Re: Libya

I see his point about going into Libya and not considering what's happening in Bahrain and Yemen but at the same time, he also goes on to talk about Ghadaffi involvement in international terrorism, which should be a serious point of consideration imo. Didn't one of the ex Judges from Libya say that Ghadaffi laid out the plans for the Lockerbie bombing?

[dig72]

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it's clearly evident you're struggling....period. with responses like "god back to sleep" and "knower of all things", you clearly have no clue what to say, but are butting in this thread just to sound important.

Sounds familiar doesn't it.

[dig72]

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This action should have been voted on by Congress, otherwise it is most certainly an illegal war.

Agreed, but I suppose if push came to shove, it would've been passed through congress anyways.

[dig72]

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Moussa the Arab League chief should be very worried.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/arab-league-chief-condemns-killing-of-libya-civilians-by-western-powers-1.350608

[res0nat0r]

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Agreed, but I suppose if push came to shove, it would've been passed through congress anyways.

Lolwut? The UN isn't beholden to the US Congress. At least from what my singular, one sided, popular press driven, asleep American warmonger sense tells me.

[Shpira]

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The main problem of people on this forum is just plain old lack of knowledge...for example...Turkey has killed way many more people than Gaddafi in the last 10 years yet it is a member of NATO, a close ally of the US and gets its weapons...such as attack helicopters to kill Kurdish civilians...yet you watched one episode of CNN's special and think of yourselves as experts in what's going on...and believe that you have the objective view. I am truly speechless reading some of the posts here...like a bunch of children.
most of you have not sought out political or international news on your own accord for the duration of your life...you get spoon fed information from your box while you are eating your breakfast and assume you have a balanced view of the world...i am once again sick of your crap...need some rest from the politics forum.

[runningman]

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here here.. you tell them Shpira..

[res0nat0r]

Re: Libya

The main problem of people on this forum is just plain old lack of knowledge...for example...Turkey has killed way many more people than Gaddafi in the last 10 years yet it is a member of NATO, a close ally of the US and gets its weapons...such as attack helicopters to kill Kurdish civilians...yet you watched one episode of CNN's special and think of yourselves as experts in what's going on...and believe that you have the objective view. I am truly speechless reading some of the posts here...like a bunch of children.
most of you have not sought out political or international news on your own accord for the duration of your life...you get spoon fed information from your box while you are eating your breakfast and assume you have a balanced view of the world...i am once again sick of your crap...need some rest from the politics forum.

Since there are worse leaders in the world out there than who currently is in power in Libya, Libya should get a free pass then?

[Kamal]

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so what you're saying is that because there are other countries doing far worse in terms of human rights violations, let the chips fall where they may and let the whole world continue to ignore the single-show documentaries on cnn?

edit: res0 beat me to it

[Shpira]

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no... that's not the point. the point is...as always in the infamous words of George Carlin..."its all bullshit and its bad for you"...
i.e. you got your little panties in a twist over an unknown number of "dead civilians" when we can name the country that committed the largest genocide since WW2 and they are your nations close allies and you sell them arms... that's it...yet you didn't hear that on CNN, FOX or where ever you nice young man get your news these days...so its not happening. We have a new baddie and his name is Gaddafi so all jump on the band wagon...wooooohaaaaa...

...the French and the Italians never get tired of raping North Africa and the US never gets tired of raping the world...they have consensus now...where will it all end...and how much will it take for people to see that they are chasing their tail??

I don't I have spend the day reading peoples comments on varies news outlet sights and one thing that strikes fear into my heart is how many uninformed, arrogant, nationalistic, racist, chauvinist assholes there are world wide...

At what point does a normal human become an inconsiderate cunt, what is it that changes and makes us hate one another and do these fucking terrible things...this war is once again plastered on the from pages of our news papers as a humanitarian intervention, while tabloids frame it as entertainment - a video game almost "the western coalition 1 : mad dictator 0" ...what are people on??? How can you have such short memories...every single fucking conflict since the world war is always framed as a humanitarian intervention and ends up being a cluster fuck with thousands of uncounted victims and then the west pulls out and leaves everyone in that country hating everything we stand for...while 5 people make a bundle...

How long does this shit have to go on till people pull their head out of the sand...and how long will I care for these things and allow them to piss me off so fucking much!

i feel truly worn out by life...by people...I cannot believe we are such a bunch of cunts. Its coming to a time where I will actually begin to think that animals are worth more than us...i mean dogs, cats and "chickens would never do this to one another...because they are decent people." (George Carlin)

[runningman]

Re: Libya

shit Shpira has found Religion

[Jenks]

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[runningman]

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[bobjuice]

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Oh, he right

[Jenks]

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George Carlin is awesome.

He's wrong though, animals aren't better than us, we ARE animals. The difference is knowing we're animals and expecting people in power to take advantage of opportunity, or blindly thinking we're not animals and we're actually going forward as a society towards a better world. I'm a fatalist in world view, i believe there is no hope for humanity (and this could be an entirely different thread if you want to get into evolution of species and animal instincts). So taking this one little slice moment of time, I've got no problem taking out a terrorist dictator who is oppressing his people and btw who also downed a plane full of Americans many years ago, regardless of how many other atrocities are being committed every day by other people in power taking advantage of their own situation all over the world, as sad as that is. Disgusting, yes, but the way this one is being written out so far, I don't have any beef with it and I also don't have much control over it. World peace is a pipe dream, a figment of everyone's imagination, humanity can never achieve that, we're not wired that way. So in that sense, I think you take each issue as it comes, knowing you can't/won't solve every world problem.