Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

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  • vinnie97
    Are you Kidding me??
    • Jul 2007
    • 3454

    Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT



    Weiner, who is likely to run for mayor of New York, said that because of the city’s special health care infrastructure, his office was looking into alternatives that might make more sense. Weiner is one of the health care law’s biggest supporters; during the debate leading up to reform, he was one of the last holdouts in Congress for the public option.
    “The president said, ‘If you have better ideas that can accomplish the same thing, go for it,’” said Weiner. “I’m in the process now of trying to see if we can take [President Barack Obama] up on it in the city of New York, … and I’m taking a look at all of the money we spend in Medicaid and Medicare and maybe New York City can come up with a better plan.”

    New York is one of two states that pass on Medicaid expenses to cities and localities, so “the city winds up having an enormous Medicaid expense,” Weiner said.

    The congressman was trying to debunk Republican “myths” about the health care law during a speech at the Center for American Progress. He used the waivers as way to describe how flexible the law actually is and how “this notion that the government is shoving the bill down people’s throats” is not true.

    “The administration needs to make this argument more forcefully,” he said. “A lot of people who got waivers were … people who are our friends.”
    Damning...can't wait 'til the unconstitutional rug gets pulled out from underneath this hideous law that only applies to Soetoro's friends but not others.
  • floridaorange
    I'm merely a humble butler
    • Dec 2005
    • 29116

    #2
    Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

    New York is one of two states that pass on Medicaid expenses to cities and localities, so “the city winds up having an enormous Medicaid expense,” Weiner said.

    ^yes

    watch this: http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11559

    And ffs stop calling it "obamacare" healthcare is a ticking time bomb and quite literally so for many people in this country. Obama like many presidents before him is trying to overhaul a dinosaur.

    It was fun while it lasted...

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    • vinnie97
      Are you Kidding me??
      • Jul 2007
      • 3454

      #3
      Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

      I'll call it whatever the fuck I want, thanks! If he wants to crown it as the key legislative achievement of his administration, it's only applicable. The Romney fix implemented in MS should provide ample evidence that this method is not a national solution and is not one size fits all or get your ass reamed by the IRS.

      And you don't fix it by making it 10 times worse and increasing expenses for medical practitioners and businesses alike by adding another layer of federal bureaucracy. I am so tired of the nanny state answer. "Fix" healthcare by defacing the constitution and siphoning personal liberty even further.

      I'll give the video a view time permitting.

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      • res0nat0r
        Someone MARRY ME!! LOL
        • May 2006
        • 14475

        #4
        Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

        lol @ nanny state and defacing the constutition.

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        • CircleGuy
          Banned
          • Jan 2010
          • 455

          #5
          Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

          you're angry about the word obamacare? what about all the times the Iraq war was called Bush's war? lol

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          • floridaorange
            I'm merely a humble butler
            • Dec 2005
            • 29116

            #6
            Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

            FACT - Insurance companies in the USA admit to pushing up prices, buying politicians and not paying out claims when they should
            FACT - PER PERSON the USA spends more on healthcare than any other nation on the planet
            FACT - Obama debated his plans before the election for healthcare
            FACT - the chance of a child under five of dying in the USA is greater than industrialised nations with universal health coverage
            FACT - Obama was elected to bring in change
            FACT - Obama wants to stop insurance companies from screwing America
            FACT - The reforms Obama wants work in the Netherlands and Switzerland

            It was fun while it lasted...

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            • googleadsense
              Fresh Peossy
              • Mar 2011
              • 21

              #7
              Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

              Originally posted by floridaorange
              FACT - Insurance companies in the USA admit to pushing up prices, buying politicians and not paying out claims when they should
              FACT - PER PERSON the USA spends more on healthcare than any other nation on the planet
              FACT - Obama debated his plans before the election for healthcare
              FACT - the chance of a child under five of dying in the USA is greater than industrialised nations with universal health coverage
              FACT - Obama was elected to bring in change
              FACT - Obama wants to stop insurance companies from screwing America
              FACT - The reforms Obama wants work in the Netherlands and Switzerland
              FACT - Any douche can cut and paste from answers.yahoo.com and convince the uninitiated that they know what they're talking about, notwithstanding the truth that such people know fuck-all about the legislation itself.

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              • vinnie97
                Are you Kidding me??
                • Jul 2007
                • 3454

                #8
                Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

                Now that's some SENSE, sir (but not of the political data mining giant variety :P).

                Not to mention, no one says (i.e. paraphrased from Piglosi), "We have to pass it to see what's in it" if it really is nothing but a box of chocolates.

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                • floridaorange
                  I'm merely a humble butler
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 29116

                  #9
                  Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

                  peace
                  Last edited by floridaorange; March 28, 2011, 10:44:53 AM.

                  It was fun while it lasted...

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                  • i!!ustrious
                    I got some N64 Games Yo!!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 12308

                    #10
                    Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

                    why can't we all just get a LOAN!?
                    (((( }-d|-__-|b-{ ))))

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                    • floridaorange
                      I'm merely a humble butler
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 29116

                      #11
                      Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

                      Originally posted by i!!ustrious
                      why can't we all just get a LOAN!?
                      Cash is king right now, banks know the public are still insolvent, no loans are getting done for a while

                      It was fun while it lasted...

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                      • i!!ustrious
                        I got some N64 Games Yo!!
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 12308

                        #12
                        Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

                        lol yah no doubt. this asshat family friend of ours has that as his slogan. i just laugh
                        (((( }-d|-__-|b-{ ))))

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                        • floridaorange
                          I'm merely a humble butler
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 29116

                          #13
                          Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

                          Originally posted by i!!ustrious
                          lol yah no doubt. this asshat family friend of ours has that as his slogan. i just laugh
                          cash is king?

                          kind of a real estate saying

                          It was fun while it lasted...

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                          • vinnie97
                            Are you Kidding me??
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3454

                            #14
                            Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

                            It's even more astonishing that you like the bureaucratization of health insurance and somehow think this law actually lowers costs. Oh well, it takes all kinds.

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                            • floridaorange
                              I'm merely a humble butler
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 29116

                              #15
                              Re: Obamacare is SO fantastic, Wiener (a former supporter) wants to OPT OUT

                              Originally posted by vinnie97
                              It's even more astonishing that you like the bureaucratization of health insurance and somehow think this law actually lowers costs. Oh well, it takes all kinds.
                              I think it's a step in the right direction, a big picture perspective really.

                              It was fun while it lasted...

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