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PS. JC/Florida, just responded to your wall message/request (didn't see it until just now!).
PS. JC/Florida, just responded to your wall message/request (didn't see it until just now!).
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i had to use this emoticon somewhere because i enjoy it. this thread feels like its on repeat each page.
Should I fuck you at that not until the ass, inject then tremendously hard bumschen and to the termination in the eyes yes?Comment
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Couldn't agree more: http://newsflavor.com/opinions/the-u...rther-dilemma/
Even as Barack Obama officially declares his intent to run for re-election as President of the United States, questions of his legitimacy are being raised in ever greater numbers – and rightfully so.
Let us cut to the core on this “Birther” issue shall we? As most within the media continue to either ignore, or offer up repeated defense in favor of Barack Obama’s constitutional qualification to run for President of the United States, some very simple facts persist that point to potentially troubling – perhaps even explosive, truths regarding the early history of Barack Obama.
Putting aside the rather colorful history of Obama’s far left radical atheist mother, who, according to Obama’s own story, struck up relations with an African born political radical/Marxist/atheist who, soon after Obama’s birth, returned to Africa. (Where he had already fathered and abandoned two earlier children when coming to America. It is likely Obama Sr. was still married to a woman in Africa at the time he married Barack’s mother Ann Dunham.) And let us also put aside the second prominent (and almost equally controversial) male figure in Obama’s life, his alcoholic stepfather Lolo Soetoro, a Muslim Indonesian government worker. And then we come to the grandparents – who, much like their free love 60’s daughter, embraced much of the goofy multi-cultural radicalism of the 1960’s and 70’s – a radicalism they firmly implanted in a young, insecure, and very impressionable Barack Obama. The Dunham’s, while living in Washington State, were enthusiastic members of the East Shore Unitarian Church, a far-left institution once led by admitted communist John Stenhouse. The Unitarian Church is noted for its far left ideology, support of socialist causes, environmentalism, and world government. Of course there is also the influence of Frank Marshall Davis, the Black communist who the Dunham’s decided would prove a strong male influence in the life of young Barack – an influence Barack himself would later openly acknowledge. Davis was a social-justice poet-author and member of the American Communist Party. (again – just ignore all of these details folks, just as the mainstream media has…nothing to see here…move along now…) The influence of Davis on Obama is undeniable. In the 1940s and 50s Davis became immersed in the Chicago labor movement, lending his services as a literary community organizer – the very path Barack Obama would later choose when he would relocate to Chicago from Hawaii. And what then of that Chicago arrival? Who was the defining male figure of influence for a still-young but rising star Barack Obama then? Why, none other than the Reverend Jeremiah Goddamn America!Wright, then-leader of Trinity Church in Chicago, an institution Barack Obama was a member of for some 20 years. A church that advocates what is known was Black Liberation Theology – a belief founded by James Cone in the following way:
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
Read those lines again reader – and then remind yourself that President Barack Obama was a member of this church for 20 years. Or, choose to be like the mainstream media and ignore these facts – again, nothing to see here….move along…mind your own business now…asking such questions makes one a racist…
So let us view the position of this same media then that attempts to ridicule and marginalize any and all who raise seemingly legitimate questions regarding Barack Obama’s background and his Constitutional legitimacy to be President of the United States. For his part, Obama continues to spend considerable resources keeping his records, including those of his birth, hidden from public scrutiny. Why? The media persists in refusing to ask even this simple question, while attacking those who do. Most recently, American billionaire and potential presidential candidate Donald Trump has asked that question, and unlike others, refused to allow the media to shame him into shutting up. Trump initially proved his hospital-issued birth certificate, showing his specific place of birth and the attending physician’s signature. Barack Obama has never provided anything remotely similar to such documentation. His own family remains uncertain as to what hospital he was actually born at. (if their version is to even be believed of course) The media, always true to its cause, attacked Trump, stating the birth certificate he provided was not “official”. (Though this same media has never so aggressively challenged Barack Obama’s birth records have they?) Within a day, Trump provided yet further proof of his birth record – this time with what is commonly referred to as a “long form birth certificate” which provides even greater detail than his hospital-issued certificate. Again, President Obama has not come close to providing anything similar to the American public. Upon release of the second birth record, the media simply changed its tactics against Trump, dismissing and ridiculing him as simply a “Birther”. The most utilized tool was the “Obama birth announcement” ploy. Surely a couple of newspaper announcements regarding Barack Obama’s birth are evidence of his legitimacy, right? Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly has pointed to these announcements as undeniable evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. Not so. What those announcements are proof of is that somebodyreported the birth of Barack Obama in 1961 – perhaps Obama’s grandparents. A recent investigation into Hawaii birth announcements of that era uncovered thousands of birth announcements in the same newspapers of children born in other nations. Such birth announcements indicate a child was born – it does not indicate where that child was born, and the origination of that information often did not come from the actual hospital of birth. Extensive research by the Daily Pen indicates the following regarding those oft-utilized Obama birth announcements:
However, a detailed investigation of the history and procedures used by Hawaii’s municipal health department, and its relationship with the newspapers, shows that not only was it a matter of official policy that Obama’s birth would have been announced in the paper regardless of where he was born, the information used to publish the announcements is not even confirmed through any eye-witness, medical authority or hospital representative in the state.
…The birth announcements were printed from unconfirmed information provided to the Newspapers by the Department of Health who received the information from Obama’s grandparents, not a hospital,” says Crosby in a phone call from Oahu.
…Obama could have been born on Mars and it wouldn’t matter to the DOH or the newspapers.”
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011...uncements.html
Ah – but what of the “Certification of Live Birth” that Obama has provided? Does that not prove his birth in Hawaii? No. A Certification of Live Birth is NOT a birth certificate, despite the liberal media’s repeated attempts to describe it as just that. It does not give information pertaining to a specific place of birth, or the attending physician. Barack Obama continues to hide his actual long form birth record (if it exists), and even a highly publicized attempt by Hawaii governor (and longtime Obama family acquaintance) Neil Abercrombie failed to successfully locate said certificate. (And what has since happened regarding that search? Abercrombie has grown strangely quiet on the matter…) Also, take a look at this language contained within Hawaii’s Department of Health language regarding how anyone can go about obtaining an amended Certification of Live Birth in Hawaii:
As provided by law (HRS §§338-17.7, 338-20.5), the following persons may apply for an amended certificate of birth:
…A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...birthcert.html
Oh My.
Was Barack Obama “legally adopted in the State of Hawaii”? That would certainly allow him to create an amended certificate of birth – but it would NOT make him a natural born citizen of the United States.
Now these questions and related facts are not new to this issue. Many bright and well-intentioned people have been raising them prior to Obama having been elected President of the United States. What has now so importantly changed though is the addition of a voice as powerful as that of Donald Trump being added – and for that all those who have been asking these valid questions regarding Barack Obama’s eligibility to run for President of the United States should be grateful. Donald Trump has now rightfully elevated the debate to the forefront of the public’s mind just as Barack Obama prepares to officially declare his intentions to run for re-election.
Perhaps Barack Obama, son of an African Marxist father and atheist liberal mother, pupil to a devoted American communist poet-community organizer, and longtime member of a race-based Black Liberation Theology church, is indeed a natural born American citizen.
Then again – perhaps he is not. And until either Barack Obama provides the answers, or enough Americans demand those answers, the question is not going away. And the truth will either set the current president free, or reveal a shocking deception as stunning as any in this nation’s storied political history…Comment
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must suck to hate non-whites so much.Comment
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Obama's proof of citizenship is rather dubious. if a different candidate was in office and in the same situation, i bet the media would be on this topic like a fly on shitComment
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Honestly I really doubt that. The only reason is because: He is black. His name is Barack. Hussein. Obama. His parents were not born in the Midwest, growing corn, or milking cows for cheese. Therefore he is less 'American'. Since this is the first time this total idiocy has had a chance to creep to the level of the President... (obviously he is less American since he has actually left the USA and been exposed to some of the rest of the world. Communist!).
Since he has actually actually experienced more than a 25 mile radius of the world from the hick town where he was born he is a foreigner right? Why is it everyone who is a 'great patriot' for the country , the one who knows the least about anything outside the confines of their small segment of upbringing in the US?
What really saddens me right now is the (hopefully temporary) poll numbers of that total TV whore Donald Trump who doesn't give a shit about anything besides his ego. He is jumping on the racist bandwagon to temporarily juke his numbers with the still racist US population of Teabaggers in a hope to try to fulfill his ego trip.
Really if he gets elected this Politics forum can be shut down, because any debate about the USA is 100% done due to America being totally full of idiots and can't look past their nose for anything, and this will validate us who have always said jack and or shit in the USA is going to change because there are too many dipshits in charge (and my citizens as a whole).Comment
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Also: why hasn't there been any Woodward and Bernstein type reporting on this issue which has dug up this awful, horrible sham, injustice that has been thrust upon us hapless citizens? I mean these are the people who brought down an entire presidency right?
Oh I know. Because it is too damn stupid to even talk about.Comment
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Does it really matter?
I mean they could elect a US born, certified donkey and you'd still get the same results.
Both major parties are the left and right hand cheek of the same ass.“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
― Marcus Tullius CiceroComment
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I am not at all surprised that someone would post this...I have no problem with the actual issue i.e. people should get a proper answer in this regard...but using articles like this to support the argument is extremely counter productive IMO.Putting aside the rather colorful history of Obama’s far left radical atheist mother, who, according to Obama’s own story, struck up relations with an African born political radical/Marxist/atheist who, soon after Obama’s birth, returned to Africa. (Where he had already fathered and abandoned two earlier children when coming to America. It is likely Obama Sr. was still married to a woman in Africa at the time he married Barack’s mother Ann Dunham.) And let us also put aside the second prominent (and almost equally controversial) male figure in Obama’s life, his alcoholic stepfather Lolo Soetoro, a Muslim Indonesian government worker. And then we come to the grandparents – who, much like their free love 60’s daughter, embraced much of the goofy multi-cultural radicalism of the 1960’s and 70’s – a radicalism they firmly implanted in a young, insecure, and very impressionable Barack Obama.
For example...if you put something aside...then put it aside and don't mention it. The author has a problem with Obama on a personal level and finds any reason to attack him. I am not sure how exactly he could have prevented his mother from being a "left wing atheist" even though I do not see anything wrong with either of those...what is the point of mentioning that his grand parents supported the "goofy multi-cultural radicalism of the 1960’s and 70’s" which in its own should be interpreted as an insult to your nations history i.e. people who fought against the tyranny of the government through the Watergate and pentagon papers were just "goofy radicals" ...
in short the author seems to be real stupid cunt.The Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
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The Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
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Right. I come to this forum and i'm amazed how much validity is given such complete nonsense...then i check myself, and say, it's not just this forum, a lot of people give too much validity to complete nonsense every day- you really don't have to look any farther than organized religion to get some prime examples.
I liked Colin Powell's response on Meet The Press years ago when Obama was running for president: he said he hears a lot of people saying he might be a muslim, omg he might be a muslim! And the answer to that should be: so what? The guy clearly doesn't have bombs strapped to his chest heading to the next checkpoint, let's move on.
And, I especially don't give a shit what land mass on this planet his mother happened to be presiding on when he came out of her vagina as an infant.
OMG HE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN BORN ON US SOIL!!! CHAOS!
Get a fucking grip. All of that has nothing to do with how lousy this country it being run by everyone in Washington DC, and how clueless the sheep are that unglue themselves from TV once every 4 years to cast their ballot.
But hey, don't let me stop you from hashing this out for another 10 pages proving you're not really any different than Billy Bob Johnson with his 76 Chevy Half Ton Pickup in Fayetteville, Arkansas with his closed minded views on the world and is so far removed from what really matters in life. Pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick. LOL @ solving this issue is what's going to make the difference, THIS will change the tides! BY GEORGE, I THINK WE'VE NAILED IT HERE, GENTS!!
The minutiae of it all is not the problem, but it's all anyone gives a shit about.
Carry on.
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^I know it's postmodern to discard the constitution when it's convenient (Patriot Act), but I'm personally sick of it and am drawing a line in the sand. The 14th Amendment is out there to be read. Natural born status is defined and understood to be defined by Natural Law and upheld by the Supreme Court in at least 4 cases. None of this excuses the rest of the dereliction of duty that you're referencing. But throwing one's hands up in the air and not tackling an obvious obfuscation of our laws is the equivalent of saying "anything goes."
He does emphasize the personal traits obviously, but he is highlighting that to show the cloth from which he was weaved...hardly stupid. And I have great reservations with the 60s/70s radicals and the "free love" movement. They are basically now the corrupt intelligentsia and ruling class with whom we find ourselves. PS. Authoritative left-wing atheists have been some of the most genocidal maniacs over the past century.
And leave it to Res to bring up race...if this were Alan Keyes, Allan West or Herman Cain (the latter who understands the constitutional need to prove natural born status), I wouldn't be raising such an alarm about it. We've got a self-avowed Marxist (the problem always comes down to the redistributors and incentive to work being killed by such a system) in the White House, the natural result of which would have as many negative connotations as having an outright fascist as far as I'm concerned.Comment
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