Obama Birth Certificate Committee (now another 9/11 thread)

[res0nat0r]

Re: Obama Birth Certificate Committee

The FACTS are all that has been released is a questionably nonauthentic COLB plus oppositional circumstantial evidence from not only his family but also the Kenyan parliament. Here, follow the evidence of the evolving COLB: http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibi...thDocument.htm

Keep dreamin', dudes. If there was nothing to this, why would Trump be risking charges of slander for the hell of it? The Obama ship is sinking, some of you are just too wrapped up in the aura of false hope and change to see it.

Trump clarifies it for the cloudy of mind: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/op...rump.html?_r=2

Good NY times letter Donald, proving you are indeed a total idiot.

Also The Don doesn't give a shit about slander. Srsly? When has the White House gone after an individual for slander? Never? And I think he could afford the cost of the lawyers if he had to deal with it if it ever actually happened anyway.

Thanks Internet for random facts to become reality, and now The Donald to to become TV news, thanks to exploiting the most gullible of American citizens.

[Jenks]

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Maybe the original birth certificate took down building 7? Make a new thread about it! It's as good a thought as any of the other new threads in the politics section.

[res0nat0r]

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Maybe the original birth certificate took down building 7? Make a new thread about it! It's as good a thought as any of the other new threads in the politics section.

Hummm. This seems plausible.

[chunky]

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More plausible than fire anyway

[runningman]

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More plausible than fire anyway

[floridaorange]

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Not claiming to be an engineer like Chunky and the following was not conducted by NASA, but it reads reasonably imo.

Later dudes.

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html

The World Trade Center was not defectively designed. No designer of the WTC anticipated, nor should have anticipated, a 90,000 L Molotov cocktail on one of the building floors.

No normal office fires would fill 4,000 square meters of floor space in the seconds in which the WTC fire developed. Usually, the fire would take up to an hour to spread so uniformly across the width and breadth of the building.

A basic engineering assessment of the design of the World Trade Center dispels many of the myths about its collapse. First, the perimeter tube design of the towers protected them from failing upon impact. The outer columns were engineered to stiffen the towers in heavy wind, and they protected the inner core, which held the gravity load. Removal of some of the outer columns alone could not bring the building down. Furthermore, because of the stiffness of the perimeter design, it was impossible for the aircraft impact to topple the building.

However, the building was not able to withstand the intense heat of the jet fuel fire. While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse.

[Highsteppa]

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Maybe the original birth certificate took down building 7? Make a new thread about it! It's as good a thought as any of the other new threads in the politics section.

It was probably folded into a paper plane and flown by underwear gnomes with extremist Hanes for Him leanings.

[Highsteppa]

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You know, if Donald Trump was actually serious about this whole Birther belief and wasn't just prostituting what little integrity he has to get ratings for Celebrity Apprentice, he could save himself a fuck of a lot of money by simply hiring a genealogist.

But then again, his "I've got private investigators looking into this..." kind of bullshit would explain his mentality and how he managed to bankrupt his own casinos, and a genealogist doesn't have the sexiness that hiring P.I.'s do when trying to get a headline. His ratings have been on an upswing every time he says crazy shit.

[chunky]

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Not claiming to be an engineer like Chunky and the following was not conducted by NASA, but it reads reasonably imo.

However, the building was not able to withstand the intense heat of the jet fuel fire. While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse.

But no plane hit WTTC 7 so there would be no fuel to quickly ignite & cause the steel to lose at least half its strength.

[Shpira]

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Not claiming to be an engineer like Chunky and the following was not conducted by NASA, but it reads reasonably imo.

Later dudes.

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html

However, the building was not able to withstand the intense heat of the jet fuel fire. While it was impossible for the fuel-rich, diffuse-flame fire to burn at a temperature high enough to melt the steel, its quick ignition and intense heat caused the steel to lose at least half its strength and to deform, causing buckling or crippling. This weakening and deformation caused a few floors to fall, while the weight of the stories above them crushed the floors below, initiating a domino collapse.

Again...no mention of speed of collapse...or the cut columns or where the fuck these melted mangled columns disapeard to afterwards. Once again...SSDD. No new info...no new explanation...have fun.

[Michael^Heaven]

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A interesting read on the birth issue...

A former official with the Hawaii Department of Health says the computer image of a "Certification of Live Birth" displayed by the Obama campaign in 2008 to demonstrate the candidate's constitutional eligibility as a "natural born citizen" to occupy the Oval Office is the only document the state releases.

But testimony and documents from others who have received them from the state simply by requesting them raises questions about the comments of Chiyome Fukino, former head of the state agency in charge of birth records, including those that may reveal details of Barack Obama's 1961 birth.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=285921

[floridaorange]

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But no plane hit WTTC 7 so there would be no fuel to quickly ignite & cause the steel to lose at least half its strength.

I don't think building 7 is what makes or breaks the case for us having had a legitimate terrorist attack, sorry.

[res0nat0r]

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Again...no mention of speed of collapse...or the cut columns or where the fuck these melted mangled columns disapeard to afterwards. Once again...SSDD. No new info...no new explanation...have fun.

lolwut. did you even read more than the first few sentences? All of the fire temp data is there.

lolwut no collapse talk?

This started the domino effect that caused the buildings to collapse within ten seconds, hitting bottom with an estimated speed of 200 km per hour. If it had been free fall, with no restraint, the collapse would have only taken eight seconds and would have impacted at 300 km/h.1 It has been suggested that it was fortunate that the WTC did not tip over onto other buildings surrounding the area. There are several points that should be made. First, the building is not solid; it is 95 percent air and, hence, can implode onto itself. Second, there is no lateral load, even the impact of a speeding aircraft, which is sufficient to move the center of gravity one hundred feet to the side such that it is not within the base footprint of the structure. Third, given the near free-fall collapse, there was insufficient time for portions to attain significant lateral velocity. To summarize all of these points, a 500,000 t structure has too much inertia to fall in any direction other than nearly straight down.

[res0nat0r]

Re: Obama Birth Certificate Committee (now another 9/11 thread)

but then again this has degenerated into another stupid talk about building collapse. i have failed.

[res0nat0r]

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Nice thread title.