holy.shit. now i think we need to invade the whole place.

[thesightless]

ignore the Muslim in action quote on the bottom/

http://www.wtfpeople.com/openlink.php?LID=8815&SID=3b9ae6fef45979e88e2deb4c3799d67d

savages. complete savages. this is only appropriate for rapists. and this is even rougher. you seriously have to be kidding me if this is in the texts. i doubt it, but god almighty this group of ppl is fucked up. wish a errant missle hit their homes.

[neoee]

^^^ you said it with the only word I could use to describe them- fucking savages.

I can't believe some cultures still do this kind of shit.

[thesightless]

Re: holy.shit. now i think we need to invade the whole place

dude it was done because they had an affair!!!

i mean i am all for killing murderers and rapists but for fucks sake, COME ON!

if i saw this and i would order a bunkerbuster on the crowd. kill em all. they just made themselves murderers because they found out someone had an affair.

[Yao]

• 1: I'm so damn glad I know Muslims that are totally unlike the guys in the video.
  
  2: Throw a fucking bomb on the lot: puts the 2 guys in the middle out of their misery, serves the damn sadists right.
  
  3: Watching this video made me nauseous and really upset me. My hands are shaking while typing this.

[sammwalk]

because we might view them as savages does not justify bombing them.

They view us as savages and they might try to bomb us- how do you think we'd feel? Oh- that's right, they already did, and we made complete jackasses out of ourselves in retaliation. At the same time, we validated their jihad.

our societies are in large part incommensurable, and brought together over oil. We wouldn't see any of this stuff if it weren't for that. Yet they'd still thrive, and so would we if we if we had no economic ties. So where's the problem? Adultery is a bad thing for them, and their law is different.

Let them be.

[sammwalk]

to add-

who is going to "invade"? You?

The solution is always to declare war instead of learning and solving problems. We still have so far to go...

[Hos]

Re: holy.shit. now i think we need to invade the whole place

dude it was done because they had an affair!!!

i mean i am all for killing murderers and rapists but for fucks sake, COME ON!

if i saw this and i would order a bunkerbuster on the crowd. kill em all. they just made themselves murderers because they found out someone had an affair.

maybe the case. but how did you come to that conclusion?

funny you tell everyone to ignore the caption at the bottom of the video, yet you get suckered by the most influential part. the caption at the beginning says they have been found guilty of adultery. i don't hear the cleric passing judgement.

and as a sidenote, what compells you to post this right-wing propaganda on this board, yet you don't on bedrock?

[Hos]

let's do it USA style!

how do you like that? you know what he did? he stole some candy!

and for the record, Iran is a religious state. it's governed by the laws of islam, shariah law. i don't know about you, but when you live in a country you usually live by the laws of that country. and trust me, you are well aware of the big ones.

you live in a country that doesn't punish people for adultery. yet you can be fined for having some of your underwear hanging out or exposed.

america is a democracy, yet it's laws are so convoluted. christianity and the democracy of america are so closely entwined. the death sentence for murder stems from christianity, "an eye for an eye".

in fact if the USA was a religious state (Christian, based on the majority) and they followed religious law, people committing adultery in America would be sentenced to death also.

Christian view of the death penalty
Jesus underwent the death penalty by crucifixion. His trial was affected by popular opinion. His death is frequently depicted in religious art, and the cross, either with or without his body on it, is the primary symbol of Christianity. Christians believe that his death was punishment for the sins of the world and brings about their redemption.

Christians are divided on the issue of capital punishment - some are in favour, some are against it under all circumstances. Liberal Christian groups tend to oppose it while most conservative Christian groups support it. The Amish and Mennonites are two conservative Christian groups that are known for their opposition to the death penalty.

Those in favour of capital punishment often point to passages in the Old Testament that advocate the death penalty such as Genesis 9 which states, "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."

Those against capital punishment often point to passages in the New Testament that advocate love, forgiveness and mercy. In Matthew 5 Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also... "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven."

In John 8, a story is told of a woman who was caught in the act of adultery. The Old Testament Law demanded that she be put to death, however, Jesus saves her life against the teachers of Law when he tells them that who-ever is without sin should throw the first stone. He later tells the woman to go and sin no more... Because the theme of the Bible is man's redemption through repentance to Christ, some Christians argue that by executing a murderer we are cutting short his life and taking away his opportunity to repent. Some conservative Christian groups who believe in a literal Hell argue that without repentance, all who die automatically go there. They argue that many serial killers, most notably, Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy became born again Christians in prison.

There is no clear consensus among Christians regarding the death penalty. It is interesting to note that most church denomination outside the United States, officially are opposed to the death penalty. In countries such as Australia and those of Western Europe, most Christians are probably opposed to capital punishment. Within the United States, there is strong support for the death penalty, especially by Christians in the southern states.


Muslim view of the death penalty
A Muslim may be sentenced to death under Shariah, Islamic law, for the murder of a Muslim, adultery if there are four witnesses, apostasy (deserting Islam), a third conviction for drinking alcohol and a fifth conviction for theft. A dhimmi (zimmi, non-Muslim living in an Islamic state) can be executed for sex with a Muslim woman, and "persecution" of Islam, for example blasphemy against Allah or Prophet Muhammad, or attempting to proselytise, i.e. convert a Muslim from his religion.

Shariah is not in force in many countries with a Muslim majority, especially those which still have laws on their statute books which date from their colonial pasts. One of the aims of Islamic fundamentalists is to re-introduce Shariah.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment

so the next time you make a call to arms to invade a nation, stop, use your brain. and if that doesn't work. SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Yao]

Mr. Sammwalk,

See you're new here. If you had taken some time to read some of my posts, then you would've noticed that I am by some peepz here considered left (although I consider myself centered). Furthermore: if there's anyone defending other people's lifestyles, it would be me.

This, however, goes against my personal beliefs when it comes to treating a fellow human being. respect is OK, but when it harms myself, it crosses the line. In my opinion, it is far overdone to stone someone too death for such a minor 'crime'.

I don't condemn a religion on this, I'm condeming the people that are involved in this stoning, and even seem to like it. My bombing phrase was more an aid in expressing my disgust at this. I'll never be able to change people, and that would show little respect form my side. But it doesn't mean I have to condone this type of behaviour.

And: if death would be the sentence, why in such a brutal and painful manner? A bullet in the head should do the job satisfactory and quick. If you have the measn to do it quick and simple, yet you choose to do it slowly and painful...sorry dude...can't find the least bit of understanding for that.

Hos: this is a political board...I bet they don't have one at Bedrock

:wink:

[Hos]

Yao: we created this section after much politcal shenanigans in the General section. people, including thesightless, have posted politics on bedrock plenty of times. yet it seems the extreme posts from thesightless are reserved for here. sure, maybe he feels more comfortable spouting off in a section that the main populus of the board don't look at.

[mylexicon]

This is just another illustration of what happens when people have a hard on for government.

Yey! We get to torture someone on behalf of our fundamentalist state.
Yey!

There is a reason limited government was selected by the founding
fathers and there's a reason they outlawed vigilanteism and declared
rule of law: 1) They were British so they knew what rule of law was 2) they knew that this sort of shit would happen if you
wrote too many stupid laws.

Make the government smaller, please! Minimize the government controls
and control yourself.

[Yao]

2) they knew that this sort of shit would happen if you
wrote too many stupid laws.

Eh, I lost you there mate..


Hos: didn't know that...though in the light of this video the extreme thoughts maybe explained at least partially. Looking back at my post...that ain't exactly cool responding either eh...

[Hos]

yeah i guess we had a few knee-jerk reactions in here, understandable after those scenes.

[timkell]

This is awful.

[mylexicon]

2) they knew that this sort of shit would happen if you
wrote too many stupid laws.

Eh, I lost you there mate..

Lol. I wan't that mad, i mean, what the hell do i care about a couple of Muslims. This will never affect the way I live. I have lots of guns
and I would never allow this to happen to me But what I was trying to
say is.....
Large government causes these problems. I believe we have similar problems
in the United States (though far less gruesome) that are ignored because
we are obsessed with "progress" instead of individual freedom. That's what
i get out of this. Don't let your superiors get too powerful and too detatched.

Nothing more, nothing less. Oh yeah, and own lots of guns cuz you never
know when you might need one in a pinch.