do not consent to being searched

[picklemonkey]

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now what would happen if you are carrying a joint??

you'd get in trouble, and be pissed about it because you "didn't do anything wrong." fucking hippies.

[Yao]

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now what would happen if you are carrying a joint??

you'd be arrested like you should be since as far as I know, that would be illegal.
and racial profiling? come on please... how is it racial profiling when ALL of the bombers pretty much look of the same nationality? unless they start recruiting blone hair blue eyed westerners, it IS going to have to be the middle eastern looking people that get checked for the most part. deal with it.
I don't really agree with the searching, but I also don't agree with these pieces of shiite running around with ruck sacks full of explosives.. which brings me to another point of this poor man that was shot the other day,and his family says the police must pay...Well, i feel for their loss, i really do.. but.

IF YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG, DON'T RUN FROM THE POLICE!

especially when the city you are in just got hit by terrorist attacks twice in a fort night

Eggzactly what I said. Maybe they should issue some kind of statement that other (minor) crimes will not be under investigation if prime suspicion was terrorism. In that case you'll know that someone really has been a bad boi anyway when he/she starts running....

[thesightless]

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dont be a prick, if you refuse it, then tough shit, they are doing their best to stop another bombing. if you are that hell bent on not being searched, stay the fuck home. we dont need massive deaths because people dont like someone looking at their shit. if you dont have anything to hide then why throw a fuss.

i saw a lady get thrown off a train at hicksville's LIRR stop b/c of this, she was a cvnt about it too.

let it happen, i like being alive and will deal with what i have to in order to stay that way.

[soundvision]

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[quote="thesightless"] if you are that hell bent on not being searched, stay the fuck home. quote]

Its one thing to refuse a search if you are walking down the street but to use some mass form of transport it could be almost expected. Sad it to what it did, but aside from george carlin. I didn't hear to many people bitching about airport security. it happens this countrys huge and it will always be threatend by either a Ted Kazinskey (sp?), Tim McVey, or some radical islomic group. Its there and we have to deal with it. They do the same shit it Europe.

[thesightless]

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i seriously wish that all the people who are making a stink are the ones who die next. i can deal with a cop looking in my briefcase, as they are only going to find a couple of tax returns, ledgers and trusts. if im planning on bringin some poot around, then throw it in the shoe.

dont whine that they are attempting to keep you alive. whine about the fact that we let whoever the fuck wanted to come here live here.

there are at least 4 known cells in the areas surrounding nyc and they cant do shit b/c until the guys actually get explosives and blow themselves up they havent committed a crime. that is like not getting a vaccination until you get malaria.

i seriously seriously hope that nothing happens, but i know it will, and when it does, i hope it happens to the people who fought so hard for the stupid shit that let a guy from pakistan come here illegally, live here illegally, planed an attack, and then kill a few thousand people like 9/11. and worse off, when you see a group of traditional garbed people of arabic or persian descent cheering on 53st and 4th ave on the afternoon of 9/11, you will still see some dirtbag civil rights activist fighting to protect them. or do i need to remind people of what happened in brooklyn a few weeks back where a flag burning group of "muslims" punched a woman in her face b/c she went at them about the flag bruning. they said it was thier right b/c women should be covered and not associate with men. THEN, a group of ""white and black"" people beat the ever livign shit out of the group a few hours later. now the group has police protection for their "demonstrations"

[Kobe]

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thing is if you look at the photo taken of the UK bombers, they had huge backpacks on. These devices are not exactly small, these searches should be limited to large bags and should be done briefly-- if they don't see a large ticking bomb, let the person go. There is no need to open every tampon in a woman's purse to confirm there is no threat.

[daveman]

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seaching large bags is how it all starts... until you get what we had with airplane searches, a guy with a shoe bomb. now everyone has to take their shoes off. if someone wants to get something somewhere bad enough it will happen. to me the point is that we don't give up any of our rights toward privacy. the patriot act has result in many many arrests, but according to a stat i wish i could find again only two arrests had anything to do with anything that we would consider terrorism. the other hundreds of arrests were people at the wrong place at the wrong time or people that were monitored under new laws that the patriot act enabled. do the politicians care... no! they try to make us feel safer, but it is these actions that make the radicals among us all the more segregated from society and fuel the fire.

[rewing3]

Another way the police can abuse there over. That is bullshit.

[thesightless]

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daveman, i got nothing against you, but what do you suggest the police do? technically we cant search only people who appear to be middleeastern b/c a few thugs in chicago were getting pulled over by cops who assumed an 18 yr old kid who drove a 50k car was a dealer (they usually were).

i hate being pulled into taking the conservative views i have on certain things, but be realistic, they arent really doing this for fun. just look at london, 2 weeks, 7 bombs, and still going to be hit again. use your common sense, god/allah/yahweh gave it to us for a reason.

i have said it before, but i never want to have to watch a plane fly into the biggest thing in the city and wonder if my father is alive. then 20 minuites later have to book ass uptown to avoid the falling debris of two builds that were both 110+ stories and 1 square acre per floor. take a look officer. now i can i take the subway?

[buckman]

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OOh man had a feeling this topic would cause some chaos after reading it.I say and im sure most of u would agree.If you got nothing to hide search all you want.Yeah it infringes on our rights as Americans;how many more subway sytems are the terrorists gonna blow up before people start saying damn we shoulda check peoples bags earlier.

[neoee]

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thing is if you look at the photo taken of the UK bombers, they had huge backpacks on. These devices are not exactly small, these searches should be limited to large bags and should be done briefly-- if they don't see a large ticking bomb, let the person go. There is no need to open every tampon in a woman's purse to confirm there is no threat.

Bingo. There's no need to racially profile. You can profile based on what is being carried.

[fumanchu182]

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I would like to be the first to say that this is the single most worst thing ever for NYC, it is going to put a sour taste in tourism's mouth.

Taking the path back from 14th and 6th ave to get back home in JC I was searched today, not only did I miss my fucking train the machine stole my god damn dollar.

I gave a few choice words to the MTA/Transit police on this one.

But I did get some recs from Satellite so it all evens out...

(P.S. I am a white male, so I don't think it was profiling... Or was it?)

[Homskillet]

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dont be a prick, if you refuse it, then tough shit, they are doing their best to stop another bombing. if you are that hell bent on not being searched, stay the fuck home. we dont need massive deaths because people dont like someone looking at their shit. if you dont have anything to hide then why throw a fuss.

i saw a lady get thrown off a train at hicksville's LIRR stop b/c of this, she was a cvnt about it too.

let it happen, i like being alive and will deal with what i have to in order to stay that way.

No shit!!! I've got nothing to hide... fucking strip search me for all I care!! If you're so concerned about being searched what is it that you're trying to hide so much...?!?!?

I'm going to have to agree with thesightless,

i like being alive and will deal with what i have to in order to stay that way.

[MJDub]

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[davetlv]

A shameless copy fo something i just posted in the politics forum. . . . . .



Every time i go into a supermarket, I get searched. Everytime i go into the bank, I get searched. Everytime i go to the train station, i get searched. Everytime I go to the Mall i get searched. Everytime i enter a government building, I get searched. Everytime i go into a cafe i get searched. . . etc.

Does it erode my civil liberties - i guess it does, but more so, it ensures that i can go on demonstrations for my civil liberties by ensuring that i don't get blown up going about my day to day life.

In a world where the 'enemy' looks like you and me we need to take certain actions to ensure we can all live free lives. Bag searches unfortunaly are a necessary evil to ensure we all carry on living.