"marijuana and violence are linked"

[mixu]

Re:: "marijuana and violence are linked"

The Observer is a piece of shit news paper for one, it isnt a creditable source from any stand point.

Would you like to expand any further on this? Why the Observer (which was on the British Press Award's shortlist for newspaper of the year) isn't a creditable source? Or is it just a lame comment...


And this is interesting too:

"The effective strength of cannabis consumed in Britain has remained stable for the past 30 years, according to a European Union study published today.
The research says there is no evidence for claims that most cannabis consumed in Britain and the rest of Europe is now 10 times or more stronger than it was in the 70s."

https://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1247650,00.html

[xeb]

marijuana and violence are heavily linked.... but not in the sence that the US government seems to think. illegal drug trade and the huge profits to be made from it definitly links marijuana to violence but at a much higher level - dealers, smugglers and growers. the solution? decriminalisation and regulation. remove the blackmarket profit and criminal element to large scale production and distribution and you remove the associated violence (and in the meantime create a fantastic taxable revenue stream for the government and at the same time save billions of wasted public funds spent on policing).

can't see it happening in the states though.

[markhadley]

whether or not pot causes violence is moot.
the stupidity of bush's new policy is that he wants to devote resources already allocated to more serious drugs to the fight against pot, specifically.
we can all argue that pot doesn't cause violence.
but more importantly, we all know other drugs do.
ask jibgolly.

[FASSTEDDIE]

Re:: "marijuana and violence are linked"

Well after read all this i need to roll me up a green Leaf Haze Blunt

[Daniel_Hemp]

Re:: "marijuana and violence are linked"

What an absolute load of bollox, i`ve never heard so much shit in my life. It should be alcohol and violence are related, as we all know. How many times do you go out on the town and see a bunch of fellas brawling late at night due to drinking too much? Loads! How many times do we hear of domestic violence caused by drinking.. loads! Now get all the same guys stoned and what would you have? I think i`ll let you answer that question because it`s too damn obvious.

from www.drugpolicy.org

Potheads are Not Hotheads: Portugal Temporarily Lifts Marijuana Restrictions for Soccer Tourney

Fans attending the Euro 2004 soccer tournament, now taking place in Portugal, are being treated to relaxed enforcement of the country's marijuana laws. Instead, Portuguese police are focusing their resources on preventing terrorism and combating soccer hooliganism.

The nation's leading law enforcement authorities have concluded that leaving marijuana smokers alone will help achieve both these objectives. The calming effect of smoking marijuana makes fans less likely to fight, while ignoring marijuana use allows police to focus more resources on preventing real crime - such as a terrorist attack.

Portuguese authorities concluded the former after consulting with their cannabis-friendly Dutch counterparts, who faced little hooliganism during Euro 2000, which took place in the Netherlands.

"We have to use common sense," Isabel Canelas, a spokeswoman for the Portuguese police, told London's Guardian. "If people are smoking but not kicking each other, not beating each other, and not making a problem, why on earth would an officer go and ask 'Is that cannabis?'"



Right on

the portuguese have right........

marihuana is the best thing than the nature has given us

[hypoluxxa]

Re:: "marijuana and violence are linked"

Yeah, all the pot heads I know are extremely violent people...


NOT!!!

I don't know why people don't use their resources to fight real crimes.

[factorg]

...the solution? decriminalisation and regulation. remove the blackmarket profit and criminal element to large scale production and distribution and you remove the associated violence (and in the meantime create a fantastic taxable revenue stream for the government and at the same time save billions of wasted public funds spent on policing).

I couldn't agree with this more. This is what my government(south african) need to wake up and realise, we are one of the biggest producers of weed in the world with a high percentage of users amongst our population, they could seriously solve a few of our problems by taking this route.

[peloquin]

marijuana and violence are heavily linked.... but not in the sence that the US government seems to think. illegal drug trade and the huge profits to be made from it definitly links marijuana to violence but at a much higher level - dealers, smugglers and growers. the solution? decriminalisation and regulation. remove the blackmarket profit and criminal element to large scale production and distribution and you remove the associated violence (and in the meantime create a fantastic taxable revenue stream for the government and at the same time save billions of wasted public funds spent on policing).

can't see it happening in the states though.

well said, completely agree

unfortunately i feel the same way about it NOT happening here.. seems like they've spent so long "fighting" it, how can they legalize it now? i say canada invades

[Steve Graham]

Re:: "marijuana and violence are linked"

well, this is post number 420 for me and what better thread to post it on than this one...

I think this argument over weed and violence is absolutely stupid. Musical Journey has an excellent point about people that are drunk being more hot heads than people that have been "chatting with Mary". I personally think there is too much money in the fines for nailing people for possession of weed for it to ever be legalised. Taking the black market and criminal element out of it will take away alot of money this and many other countries depend on.

[progressive420]

Re:: "marijuana and violence are linked"

this is stupid, i smoke weed everyday, and if anything it keeps me from acting out violently. weed is the reason i am not violent. once i get high i am not as pissed as i might have been before i was stoned.

did they ask for pot head input, no! these people that come up with this shite, probally never even seen pot, let alone smoked.

Don't pass judgement if you don't know shit.

Damn, WHY IS AMERICA SO FUCKIN STUPID? ANYBODY?

[DreamGirlie]

mercuryserver stoners unite!

[peloquin]

bong is my weapon of choice

[DreamGirlie]

Good choice if I do say so myself...

[BeatMonkey]

This is total crap. I haven't ever seen anyone violent while under the influence of marijuana, unless they had been drinking alcohol as well. How about if Bush makes alcohol illegal based on all the alcohol-related deaths and families torn apart? What he needs to do is make it legal, tax it a bit, and grow the dankest shit we ever knew!

[Balanc3]

Ya, this is especially true in Colorado. And yes, anything would be more important then focusing on MJ.

I second that... if you didn't see the thread... this just came from the great land of Colorado.

http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=26611#26611

And I completely understand why Bush would want to weaken the fight against Cocaine and Heroin... he's a user himself. More crack for Bush, less KB for me.