Miami Heat!!!!!

[speciale]

What a game last night.1 more game for Miami but I think Dallas might be too strong on their home court.

[speciale]

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NBA Champs, bitches!!!!!!!

I hate basketball but I jumped on the bandwagon for about 20 minutes last night.

[thesightless]

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this hurt the NBA big time... the league needed the mavs. now we immediatly jump back to the dark era of the NBA and low ratings. wow, they took a hit. just when they thought they were out of the funk, they just lost a ton of fans.

oh well, my hatred for kobe allows me to enjoy shaq holding the trophy.

[hambino21]

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I'm just glad they won because now the hotel prices in Dallas dropped by half, so now I have more money for Digweed . Other than that I could care less about the NBA

[Garrick]

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sightless - why does the NBA need the mavs to win? i love mark cuban (because he loves controversy and always makes mr. "i'm god" stern uncomfortable) and i was rooting for dallas.. but i think d wade could honestly be the next michael jordan, imo. he isn't cocky and just plays the game... very good image for the NBA.


you want my honest opinion.... get rid of the commisioner. he sucks.



congrats to the heat on their first championship. i'm happy for shaq, pat riley and crew. hopefully this will put kobe in his place in one way or another.

[thesightless]

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because the NBA does not need another superstar who has a team built around him, they need more teams with superstars playing within the game. and if you dont beleive me, go check out the TV ratings.. they were at thier highest for the bird/magic era, and went downhill when jordan arrived, and then plummeted when he retired and we had the group of players trying to be him.(kobe, iverson,garnett, etc) but you look at who won and it was duncan playing within the spurs offense, making parker and ginobili better. look at nash, novitski, wade and even shaq, they all tuned down thier games for the betterment of thier team and only really went off when it was neccessary. also, we dont need the ""jordan-foul"" anymore. if Dwade plans on reclessly driving the lane then you cannot call every conact foul when he drives his body into a big man and falls back. however with the rise of dwade, my point is proven ever moreso, his 40 points come on 20 shots, and kobe's 40 point games come on 50 shots. this new era that is trying to break through is entirely more fun. its a fast paced game, lots of points, high flying, team based. look at the pistons, they are still a powerhouse of a team where a group of castoffs got together, realized they could play D and operate as a team, not needing the vince carter play style where you give one guy the balls, clear out and let him try to take 2 guys to the hoop and take risky shots. and the suns as well. nash, a small guy who loves to run loses arguably the best big man in the league, picks up 3 guys who were cut from teams last year and a frenchman who sat on the bench to western finals. now look where the so called ""great players "" are. kobe got housed by the suns, without amare or Kthomas, but he is the mvp,....sure. garnett is even here, AI is fishing, arenas made the playoffs but hurt his team by not allowing anyone to be involved. the pure talent of some of these guys makes them a great scorer, but not neccessarily a great player. (carter, kobe, garnett, AI, etc). with the change in the last 2-3 years within the NBA, we now have teams that can play multiple styles, in a flowing game. when you have the so called next jordan you have what we have seen since jordan himself left. slow games, constant fouls, offenses where they are afraid to let anyone but the superstar take the shot (go check out J.kidd's stats after carter arrived).

ill quote bill simmons

Here's what happens if Miami wins the title: New Jersey will say to themselves, "Hey, maybe this could happen to us with Vince Carter"; Washington will say the same about Arenas; Boston with Pierce; G-State with Richardson; the Lakers with Kobe; New Team X with Iverson. And so on and so on. But that's just the thing ... we went through this last decade. There was only one MJ; the formula couldn't be replicated. Same with Dwyane Wade; only LeBron can match him. And everyone else will fail trying, which means we can look forward to another decade of perimeter scorers going 11 for 32 in big games, teammates standing around while stars dribble at the top of the key waiting to challenge two defenders at once, and refs deciding every big game (like in Game 5) by how they interpret contact when the same guy is recklessly driving to the basket over and over again. Does any of this sound fun to you? I didn't think so.

As a basketball fan, I think this would be terrible. A tragedy, even. Nothing against Wade -- after all, it isn't his fault his team sucks and he has to play this way -- but seeing an individual triumph over a team YET AGAIN would erase every positive outcome from the 2005-06 season. Basically, the team with LeBron or Wade will win the next 10-12 titles, and it will come down to which guy made more 20-footers with two guys on him and which guy got the most cheap calls from the most spineless referees. That's not basketball, it's a star system. When my wife was asking why I was so ticked off after Game 5, it wasn't because I had money on the game (I didn't), or because I liked one team more than the other (I don't). If Miami wins, we may as well go back to box haircuts again, because it's going to be 1991 all over again -- the "New and Improved" NBA will have been defeated, and the Old-School NBA will reign supreme.

the NBA's needs to push the renaissance they are going through, if only for the fans, remember them, they are ones paying for tickets and allowing you to earn billions from the networks.

[thesightless]

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thats my 100% honest opinion. i was a die hard NBA fan when i was younger, lost interest with the jordan teams later on, and didnt watch a single game for about 4 years. then last year this little upstart team who didnt want to play defense, but wanted to have 4 guys averaging 20 a game came around and then suddenly thier power forward realized he can become the most dominant big man for awhile and he decided he wanted 30 a game ON TOP OF the other guys getting 20. oh yeah, thier little general, he is the current , 2 time MVP.

[Garrick]

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all points well taken. i agree with you 100% after reading that. even though i think d wade is an admirable role model for young kids, i like the team attitude much better. like when the rockets repeated in '94 & '95, it was a team effort (had to bring that up ) enjoyed the read. i see what you are talking about now.

[thesightless]

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i can/will talk sports any minute of any day. i live for the yanks, maple leafs, suns and jets. 2 of 4 isnt bad. and im damn glad i could relay some of the positive feelings i got on the NBA, while pointing out why i cant fall in love with the so called next jordan, whoever it may be in a given year. the thing about wade is that he plays within himself, always getting a few assists and rebounds on top of turning up his scoring when they need it, not just when he needs it.

[Jenks]

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i like the team attitude much better. like when the rockets repeated in '94 & '95, it was a team effort

you forgetting about Hakeem? He's the reason they repeated.

[Garrick]

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he was their main player, sure, but in no way was he the only reason they won. you had clyde the glyde, horry, cassell, kenny smith, mario elie... all big contributors to their repeat.

[Jenks]

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in the same way jordan won with rodman, pippen, kerr, kukoch...etc.

[3d_1200]

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game 5 is one thats going to stay with me for awhile.

the nba loves d.wade and shaq and the officiating proved it.

i wont watch next year.

[Garrick]

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sure you will... don't lie. or would you rather watch "how to get the guy".

[Garrick]

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in the same way jordan won with rodman, pippen, kerr, kukoch...etc.

point taken, but every good team is going to have a dominant player that stands out. you could say that about the mavericks too... dirk is easily their best player and he has a supporting cast. nash is obviously the dominant player for phoenix with a smart, efficient supporting cast, nash just gets it done in a different way. it doesn't mean any one team plays like less of a team than another. the rockets played like a team until barkley and pippen came... why? they ruined their team strategy that worked for them. if jordan didn't have a good supporting team, he wouldn't have as many rings as he does, hands down.