Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

[alexfish333]

Re: Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

Dave man-everything you've written the whole time I have been able to understand from the perspective of someone living in Israel and the cold realities of the tension and constant fighting and violence you are all exposed to all the time

but having kids sign munitions is fucking retarded

[davetlv]

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Dave man-everything you've written the whole time I have been able to understand from the perspective of someone living in Israel and the cold realities of the tension and constant fighting and violence you are all exposed to all the time

but having kids sign munitions is fucking retarded

Alex

Not sure when the pictures were taken, the to hizbollah with love was my addition; better have kids write on missiles then strap body belts full of explosives to their chest and send them through a checkpost though!

Sorry if they've offended.

David

[davetlv]

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We often forget that Lebanon had a huge Christian population prior to the civil war. Heres a message from Brigitte Gabriel, a brave voice who refuses to be silent.

Thank you Israel

Dear Friends,


Thank you Israel
By Brigitte Gabriel

For the millions of Christian Lebanese, driven out of our homeland, Thank you Israel, is the sentiment echoing from around the world. The Lebanese Foundation for Peace, an international group of Lebanese Christians, made the following statement in a press release to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert concerning the latest Israeli attacks against Hezbollah:

We urge you to hit them hard and destroy their terror infrastructure. It is not [only] Israel who is fed up with this situation, but the majority of the silent Lebanese in Lebanon who are fed up with Hezbollah and are powerless to do anything out of fear of terror retaliation.

Their statement continues,

On behalf of thousands of Lebanese, we ask you to open the doors of Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion Airport to thousands of volunteers in the Diaspora willing to bear arms and liberate their homeland from [Islamic] fundamentalism. We ask you for support, facilitation and logistics in order to win this struggle and achieve together the same objectives: Peace and Security for Lebanon and Israel and our future generations to come.

The once dominant Lebanese Christians responsible for giving the world the Paris of the Middle East as Lebanon used to be known, have been killed, massacred, driven out of their homes and scattered around the world as radical Islam declared its holy war in the 70s and took hold of the country. They voice an opinion that they and Israel have learned from personal experience, which is now belatedly being discovered by the rest of the world.

While the world protected the PLO withdrawing from Lebanon in 1983 with Israel hot on their heals, another more volatile and religiously idealistic organization was being born: Hezbollah, the Party of God, founded by Ayatollah Khomeini and financed by Iran. It was Hezbollah who blew up the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon in October,1983 killing 241 Americans and 67 French paratroopers that same day. President Reagan ordered U.S. Multilateral Force units to withdraw and closed the books on the marine massacre and US involvement in Lebanon February 1984.

The civilized world, which erroneously vilified the Christians and Israel back then and continues to vilify Israel now, was not paying attention. While America and the rest of the world were concerned about the Israeli / PLO problem, terrorist regimes in Syria and Iran fanned Islamic radicalism in Lebanon and around the world. Hezbollah's Shiite extremists began multiplying like proverbial rabbits out-producing moderate Sunnis and Christians. Twenty-five years later they have produced enough people to vote themselves into 24 seats in the Lebanese parliament. Since the Israeli pull out in 2000, Lebanon has become a terrorist base completely run and controlled by Syria with its puppet Lebanese President Lahood and the Hezbollah state within a state.

The Lebanese army has less than 10,000 military troops. Hezbollah has over 4,000 trained militia forces and there are approximately 700 Iranian Revolutionary Guards in Southern Lebanon and the Bekaa Valley. So why can't the army do the job? Because the majority of Lebanese Muslims making up the army will split and unite along religious lines with the Islamic forces just like what happened in 1976 at the start of the Lebanese civil war.

It all boils down to a war of Islamic Jihad ideology vs. Judeo Christian Westernism. Muslims who are now the majority of Lebanon's population, support Hezbollah because they are part of the Islamic Ummah-the nation. This is the taboo subject everyone is trying to avoid.

The latest attacks on Israel have been orchestrated by Iran and Syria driven by two different interests. Syria considers Lebanon a part of greater Syria. Young Syrian President Assad and his Ba'athist military intelligence henchmen in Damascus are using this latest eruption of violence to prove to the Lebanese that they need the Syrian presence to protect them from the Israeli aggression and to stabilize the country. Iran is conveniently using its Lebanese puppet army Hezbollah, to distract the attention of world leaders meeting at the G-8 summit in St. Petersburg, from its pursuit of nuclear weapons. Apocalyptic Iranian President Ahmadinejad and the ruling Mullah clerics in Tehran want to assert hegemony in the Islamic world under the banner of Shia Mahdist madness. Ahmadinejad wants to seal his place as top Jihadist for Allah by make good his promise to wipe Israel off the map.

No matter how much the west avoids facing the reality of Islamic extremism of the Middle East, the west cannot hide from the fact that the same Hamas and Hezbollah that Israel is fighting over there, are of the same radical Islamic ideology that has fomented carnage and death through terrorism that America and the world are fighting. This is the same Hezbollah that Iran is threatening to unleash in America with suicide bomb attacks if America tries to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapon. They have cells in over 10 cities in the United States. Hamas, has the largest terrorist infrastructure on American soil. This is what happens when you turn a blind eye to evil for decades, hoping it will go away.

Sheik Nasrallah, the head of Hezbollah, is an Iranian agent. He is not a free actor in this play. He has been involved in terrorism for over 25 years. Iran with its Islamic vision for a Shia Middle East now has its agents, troops and money in Gaza in the Palestinian territories, Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. Behind this is this vision that drives the Iranian President Ahmadinejad who believes he is Allah's tool and facilitator bringing the end of the world as we know it and the ushering in of the era of the Mahdi. He has a blind messianic belief in the Shiite tradition of the 12th or hidden Islamic savior who will emerge from a well in the holy city of Qum in Iran after global chaos, catastrophes and mass deaths and establish the era of Islamic Justice and everlasting peace.

President Ahmadinejad has refused so far to respond to proposals from the U.S., EU, Russia and China on the UN Security Council to cease Iran's relentless quest for nuclear enrichment and weapons development program until August 22nd. Why August 22nd? Because August 22nd, coincides with the Islamic date of Rajab 28, the day the great Salah El-Din conquered Jerusalem.
Ahmadinejad's extremists ideology in triggering Armageddon gives great concerns to the intelligence community.

At this point the civilized world must unite in fighting the same enemies plaguing Israel and the world with terrorism. We need to stop analyzing the enemies' differences as Sunni-Hamas or Shiite-Hezbollah, and start understanding that their common bond in their fight against us is radical Islam.

http://cedarmailer.com/americancongress/pages/archive/messagedetails.asp?ID=475

[MJDub]

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^ That's encouraging.

[KinKyJ]

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imo

[KinKyJ]

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Alex

Not sure when the pictures were taken, the to hizbollah with love was my addition; better have kids write on missiles then strap body belts full of explosives to their chest and send them through a checkpost though!

Sorry if they've offended.

David

Sorry if this offends too. Some pictures taken after those cute Israeli kids wrote those cute messages on those cute bombs. Enjoy...

http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/

[Kamal]

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^^^ Unreal man.... those people are the ones that are wanting to "wipe" another race off the planet and now they try and reach out to the "emotional" side of humanity....

if that isn't hypocrasy at its finest, we must be studying from different dictionaries.

[KinKyJ]

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^^^ Unreal man.... those people are the ones that are wanting to "wipe" another race off the planet and now they try and reach out to the "emotional" side of humanity....

if that isn't hypocrasy at its finest, we must be studying from different dictionaries.

You tell that to her



or to them...







The three last pics are from a civilian van which was evactuating people... Well, until the Israeli airforce flew by that is...

[Kamal]

Re: Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

BS Jan and you damn well know that.... there are far worse atrocities from this war that I can google and paste pictures of in here. Bottom line, you can't pick ONE photo to point out right or wrong simply because THIS is the consequence of a war they CHOSE to bring upon themselves.

[KinKyJ]

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BS Jan and you damn well know that.... there are far worse atrocities from this war that I can google and paste pictures of in here. Bottom line, you can't pick ONE photo to point out right or wrong simply because THIS is the consequence of a war they CHOSE to bring upon themselves.

What's the age to vote in Lebanon? 7? 12?

I'm all for finishing off Hezbollah once and for all, but killing children is wrong, no matter whether you wear a keppel or an arafat scarf.

[threehills]

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Fuck these pictures of dying kids. Call me a cold hearted bastard, I probably am. When was there EVER a conflict in which innocent civillians were not killed? What is new here?

I'll tell you....whats new is that FAR less innocent civillians are being killed, but for the ones that are, 10 times the journalits and people with camera phones are there to capture it. Civillian casualties are unavoidable in an armed conflict and it nausiates me when either side tries to play it up that the other is targeting civillian

[KinKyJ]

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Tell ya what then, let's round up every Lebanese we can find, put them on a train and gas them. I bet Auschwitz still has some working collective "showers".

[threehills]

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On different note, from reading all the posts and in general, western opionion seems to be that these muslim fundamentalists are nut job extremeists. Has anyone come across a rationaized arguement in favor of islamic fundamentalism? (one that is supported with evidence and logical thinking. I realize its hard to use facts when writing about religion) If so, I would very much like to read it.

[Kamal]

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boss, not trying to sound like am pro war or any of this crap but you can't put "children and (insert bad situation here)" in a sentence so no brownies on guessing that.

however, do you know that it was reported that at the height of the Kargil issue in India, the terrorists groups were training and passing Militant into Kashmir who were as young as 14 year olds, brainwashed, with only 2 magazines of AK-47 (cause they would have never ventured far into the Indian territory), fucking Saran wrapped (sp?) to fight the cold and instructed to shoot any Indian at sight.

You really think if the bombings here did something bad, that they wouldn't have grown up to become another part of the radical force ?

[threehills]

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Tell ya what then, let's round up every Lebanese we can find, put them on a train and gas them. I bet Auschwitz still has some working collective "showers".

Thats a ridiculous response and you know it. Nowhere did I advocate the intentially killing of civilians, but rather that we can't expect to have a war free of civilian casulties and to expect otherwise is foolish.