Vegetarian Alliance

[floridaorange]

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This quote kind of sums up this discussion pretty well imo

"The symbolism of meat-eating is never neutral. To himself, the meat-eater seems to be eating life. To the vegetarian, he seems to be eating death. There is a kind of gestalt-shift between the two positions which makes it hard to change, and hard to raise the questions on the matter at all without becoming embattled."

- Author Mary Midgley




Wow, there's even a handbook on the topic

[DIDI]

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^^^ I wonder if there is one to protect meat eaters from over zealous vegetarians

I've never tried to talk anyone into eating meat, but I have had quite a few vegetarians try to talk me out of it. I don't take offence, I always assume that they believe they are doing me a favour. And they may be !

[Haziel]

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Our bodies are made for this stuff, we got all the enzimes and the stuff thats necesary in order to digest the food, we were engineered to eat this kind of meals.

You are absolutely wrong there mate our bodies lack the proper enzymes and acids carnivorous animals have, so our digestive system has to work triple in order to digest meat , look at our human teeth they resemble more of a non-carnivorous animal than one that actually is carnivorous . So your thought on us being engineered to eat these kind of meals is incorrect

Human


non carnivorous



carnivorous



Btw There are tons of diseases that are idiopathic and recent studies are pointing towards the consumption of meat .

[Steve Graham]

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i think he is confusing engineered with evolved

do a colon cleanse and then tell me your body was engineered for this sort of diet

[DIDI]

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Maybe we are still evolving into vegetarians??? The teeth look sort of half way there and it is an issue to make a vegetarian diet really balanced for we humans

[feather]

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But we're omnivores, nothing wrong with that. Heaps of omnivores in the animal kingdom. It doesn't have to be a canivore OR herbivore thing.

[DIDI]

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But we're omnivores, nothing wrong with that. Heaps of omnivores in the animal kingdom. It doesn't have to be a canivore OR herbivore thing.

Ahhh That's what I meant!!

[Miroslav]

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.. sry, didn't mean to post. have nothing to say.

[Haziel]

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But we're omnivores, nothing wrong with that. Heaps of omnivores in the animal kingdom. It doesn't have to be a canivore OR herbivore thing.

Yes the majority of the human race is omnivore by definition and by choice though we are not meant to be that way.

[feather]

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How are we not meant to be this way if you said we're omnivore by definition? We've obvously evolved this way. Who's to say we were meant to be anything?

[Steve Graham]

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^^^ right

It's more so to do with all the CRAP that gets pumped into the animals before they are consumed that we are not built to digest

[feather]

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That, and eating all the processed grains, food, etc ... if we're eating whole foods from unadultered meats and vege, I doubt if we'd have so many problems. Animals been doing eating off the land for ever and you don't see them with half the shit the human race has. The rate we're going, eating vege will probably turn you red and glow in the dark.

Have you guys seen the tomatoes in the supermarkets? They're freaks man. They last waaaay too long in the fridge. I was surprised to see some I'd forgotten about, still looking like the day I bought them.

[Haziel]

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How are we not meant to be this way if you said we're omnivore by definition? We've obvously evolved this way. Who's to say we were meant to be anything?

Nobody said it , I meant it is a definition in the dictionary we drink excessive amounts of alcohol = alcoholic.

Who is to say?... nobody , just doing the math it is more the harm than the benefit. so by logic you can figure out we weren't meant to eat meat you don't have the proper enzymes , acids , teeth ,chewing muscles , immune system so why force the body?

[Steve Graham]

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lol yeah I notice that, I only get my fruit and veg from a couple of natural/organic shops around here, and free range eggs.. if you get a dozen free range eggs and compare them to grocery store eggs.. for one the taste is amazingly different, but also the size and shape

this one place near me sells whole organic (free range) rotisserie chickens, literally about half the size of one at a grocery store thats been pumped with steroids and shit

[Haziel]

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This quote kind of sums up this discussion pretty well imo

"The symbolism of meat-eating is never neutral. To himself, the meat-eater seems to be eating life. To the vegetarian, he seems to be eating death. There is a kind of gestalt-shift between the two positions which makes it hard to change, and hard to raise the questions on the matter at all without becoming embattled."

Interesting quote thanks for sharing it