ny post cartoon

[ddr]

Re: ny post cartoon

nawwwww

lol Kamal.

I am just trying to make a point where picking and choosing a specific interpretation of a word is retarded. For all we know, monkeys were Gods a million years ago. For example, Hindu's thinks that cows are Godly. But here in America, calling someone a cow is an insult to their weight.

[toasty]

Re: ny post cartoon

If you want to go into history, humans came from apes, eg. monkeys. By calling someone a monkey, regardless of that person's race, that is just reinforcing our evolutionary past. Am I wrong?

Is this really your position? You've always seemed like a pretty bright dude in the past, and I seriously can't even believe we're having this discussion.

Moreover, if President Obama was white, I still believe that this cartoon would have been released given the circumstances of Washington, the stimulus bill, and the shooting of the chimp earlier in the week.

I agree because, again, I don't actually think the cartoon was intended to be racist, nor am I even certain the chimp was supposed to be Obama -- could have been Congress. That's a different debate, though, than whether you can call a black guy a chimp without expecting some backlash (hint: you cannot). The Post's non-apology did not help. They should have said something like this:

Although the cartoon was in no way intended to have racial overtones, we understand, with the benefit of hindsight, how it could be interpreted in that fashion. To those who saw the cartoon in that light and were offended, we sincerely apologize.

How hard is that? Admits no wrongdoing but validates the concerns of those that were offended.

[Kamal]

Re: ny post cartoon

Hindu's thinks that cows are Godly.

slap me a medium rare anytime bro.

[ddr]

Re: ny post cartoon

Is this really your position? You've always seemed like a pretty bright dude in the past, and I seriously can't even believe we're having this discussion.



I agree because, again, I don't actually think the cartoon was intended to be racist, nor am I even certain the chimp was supposed to be Obama -- could have been Congress. That's a different debate, though, than whether you can call a black guy a chimp without expecting some backlash (hint: you cannot). The Post's non-apology did not help. They should have said something like this:

Although the cartoon was in no way intended to have racial overtones, we understand, with the benefit of hindsight, how it could be interpreted in that fashion. To those who saw the cartoon in that light and were offended, we sincerely apologize.

How hard is that? Admits no wrongdoing but validates the concerns of those that were offended.

No toasty, that is not my position, hehe. I was just trying to think of another way calling someone a monkey could be construed and that is all that I could think of at that time.

I do not think that the cartoonist had any racial intentions with this cartoon and I find it being brought up, just utterly hilarious to say the least.

slap me a medium rare anytime bro.

ditto Kamal.

[DIDI]

Re: ny post cartoon

If you want to go into history, humans came from apes, eg. monkeys. By calling someone a monkey, regardless of that person's race, that is just reinforcing our evolutionary past. Am I wrong?

Moreover, if President Obama was white, I still believe that this cartoon would have been released given the circumstances of Washington, the stimulus bill, and the shooting of the chimp earlier in the week.

Clutching at straws here The link that Floridaorange put up sums it up really well !!

[runningman]

Re: ny post cartoon

Clutching at straws here The link that Floridaorange put up sums it up really well !!

It is Florida Orange... Jeez..

Furthermore there should be a period after "here"

Ouch two in the same quote!

[MJDub]

Re: ny post cartoon

It is Florida Orange... Jeez..

Furthermore there should be a period after "here"

Ouch two in the same quote!

While we're at it, there should be a period after your quote of the word "here," but inside the quotation marks, exactly like that comma is.

[DIDI]

Re: ny post cartoon

It is Florida Orange... Jeez..

Furthermore there should be a period after "here"

Ouch two in the same quote!

Hey! Don't pick on me, I don't correct spelling or grammar. I just laugh when others do !! As for the floridaorange , I believe it shows respect to use people's names they way they do.

[Localizer]

Re: ny post cartoon

If you want to go into history, humans came from apes, eg. monkeys. By calling someone a monkey, regardless of that person's race, that is just reinforcing our evolutionary past. Am I wrong?

Moreover, if President Obama was white, I still believe that this cartoon would have been released given the circumstances of Washington, the stimulus bill, and the shooting of the chimp earlier in the week.

humans didn't come from apes or monkeys. They shared a common ancestor with them.

But I think you're missing the point. This country has had a history of racial tension. Saying you wear cotton isn't as bad as implying a black man is a monkey (again, because they were referred to as being inferior, just like apes way back when). Unfortunately, many black people are going to see it that way, and you really can't fault them for that. That's just the way life is.

[Kamal]

Re: ny post cartoon

Unfortunately, many black people are going to see it that way, and you really can't fault them for that. That's just the way life is.

That's how I saw it..... and I'm brown!

[MJDub]

Re: ny post cartoon

That's how I saw it..... and I'm brown!

That's how I saw it..... and I'm white!

[toasty]

Re: ny post cartoon

Rupert Murdoch has apologized, for real:

As the Chairman of the New York Post, I am ultimately responsible for what is printed in its pages. The buck stops with me.
Last week, we made a mistake. We ran a cartoon that offended many people. Today I want to personally apologize to any reader who felt offended, and even insulted.


Over the past couple of days, I have spoken to a number of people and I now better understand the hurt this cartoon has caused. At the same time, I have had conversations with Post editors about the situation and I can assure you - without a doubt - that the only intent of that cartoon was to mock a badly written piece of legislation. It was not meant to be racist, but unfortunately, it was interpreted by many as such.


We all hold the readers of the New York Post in high regard and I promise you that we will seek to be more attuned to the sensitivities of our community.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/24/rupert-apologizes-for-car_n_169386.html

[Kamal]

Re: ny post cartoon

I read that on CNN as well and the one thing that caught my eye is this..... he says

"I can assure you -- without a doubt -- that the only intent of that cartoon was to mock a badly written piece of legislation.

but the writeup also says

The cartoon was published on Wednesday, a day after President Obama signed the stimulus bill.

Clearly, if it was meant to be what it was meant to be what he says it was mean to be, I guess they could have released the cartoon when the 750 Billion Bill was approved as opposed to when Obama signed the Bill.

[Localizer]

Re: ny post cartoon

That's how I saw it..... and I'm brown!

That's how I saw it..... and I'm white!