Being Poor

[Kamal]

Re: Being Poor

I agree with a lot of what you say too feather, so when you getting a room ?

[N-tchbl]

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[spyros]

Re: Being Poor

Ok Didi don’t be angry
I will give you a more detailed answer of what I mean. It is mainly about “mind over matter” perspective.

First, I read the list and I am not saying that all of that isn’t the every day reality for way more than half of the earth’s population, but I’d still give you the same answer, it is a choice.

Ok now hear me out. The human mind does a lot more for us than it is obvious to us. And yet it is still only a tool that we use. For example: We are born it in this world like a blank paper and receive certain amount of information that we then begin to believe is the truth and we seek evidence in our daily life and we usually get the confirmation that what we were told is true. Ok. But on the other side of the world another blank paper is born who receives completely different set of information and his reality also turns out to be the truth in his eyes – but our stories are direct opposites and still they happen to be true. Well that part of the studies of anthropology made me think but I honestly decided I will ignore it coz it made my belief system collapse. But then I dug deeper and discovered explanation to this (and way more than I expected tbh).

First important fact we are usually unaware of is that the brain has the capability to process a huge amount of data – we are aware of about 2,000 bits of information per second and our subconscious mind processes about 200 billion bits of information per second – now this huge amount of unaware stuff that is not to be overlooked!

Honestly I don’t know how to make this answer simple coz if I give you the direct answer it may sound like I am describing the color of a number 5, so I’ll give you some background of my studies.
For example Cymatics (explains and impact of a spoken word or any other sound and its influence on a physical matter), Sacred geometry (explains micro and macro world – I need to mention a few things here just to give you an tiny idea: like every planet in our solar system (and out) has the exact same position as does our molecules in or body, our blood cells, our internal organs,…, or that all of the volcanoes on earth are positioned the same way our meridians are in our upper torso – these studies were begun by Leonardo DaVinci…, every plant on earth has the same growh structure as the human cells in the fetus,…) , DNA (there used to be a term “junk dna” coz the scientists had no idea what 95% of our dna was used for, so they thought it was dead but only recently discovered it contains an enormous amount of information including every single word we have written and the vocabulary we haven’t even learned yet, it contains information about more than a 100 emotional states we are experiencing every day and are aware of just a few, and they thought that this was the basis our life is shaped of but discovered that a human mind can change the dna code and that was quite a revolutionary discovery but was never mentioned in a mass media- of course…), Quantum physics, NLP, and so on…

There is a lot of knowledge behind this statement! In the end what matters is what I think and believe or what instructions I give to my brain to initiate the frequency that will resonate the result I want. The point is if I observe the world and agree with what is being seen is the truth than this truth will reply itself until I change the point of view, so that’s why it is probable most people will not realize that they can decide not to be poor or sick or… (unless we reach a critical mass ) but this knowledge is available and is also very old and is very very interesting if you give it a chance.

so what you say is, that if we feed on babies brain in Africa information which says "we're not poor and this is how life is meant to be and its wonderful", they will stop being poor and the water will clean itself and they will stop dying from easy to cure diseases and they will feel better? i dont think it works like this..

the choice comes to people who beg for money altho they could work! youre poor if youre lazy and thats a choice. but working your ass off all day cleaning stairs and at the end not having the money, i.e to send your kids abroad to study, or not going out because you cant afford it, knowing that if you do will mean that some bills will remain unpaid.. im sorry but thats not a choice...

[Kat]

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so what you say is, that if we feed on babies brain in Africa information which says "we're not poor and this is how life is meant to be and its wonderful", they will stop being poor and the water will clean itself and they will stop dying from easy to cure diseases and they will feel better? i dont think it works like this..

look i understand why you have an opinion without really knowing what i am talking about and i understand you didnt study all these things but i cannot be your teacher here. wanting to learn more is a choice also. and you dont have to. i gave you enough guidelines if youre interested. whatever you make of it, it will be true to you!!

[feather]

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Well you're saying something that seems to fly in the face of logic and reasoning, so I think you should convince us of your point of view. No point dropping things like quantum mechanics without actually telling us the hows and whys of it. It's like me telling you the sky is red because of quantum mechanics, why don't you go to the library and read up all about it, when you can see quite clearly the sky is blue.

[chanty]

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Maybe this will explain Katkich's point a little?

http://www.articlesbase.com/self-help-articles/thought-power-your-thoughts-create-your-reality-570587.html

I know that my thoughts create my reality, but I def. didn't realize this as a child so thankfully I had good parents, a comfy home, and lots of food!

[DIDI]

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look i understand why you have an opinion without really knowing what i am talking about and i understand you didnt study all these things but i cannot be your teacher here. wanting to learn more is a choice also. and you dont have to. i gave you enough guidelines if youre interested. whatever you make of it, it will be true to you!!

We are not talking opinions, we are talking facts. And that condescending attitude isn't going to convince us our facts are wrong. ! This is all starting to sound like "The Secret"

[|Thrax|]

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please read the article I posted.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/17/AR2009051702053_3.html

we are talking two sides of being "poor" the people who know nothing and have the capability (an average homeless individual that maybe begs for money, or can work), or the people that are poor and unable to make progress because of actual poverty lines.. neighboorhoods, unable to have the capability to succeed.

being a "bum" is a choice, poverty has many cause and effects on the world...
the rich steal from the poor..

[Kat]

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Well you're saying something that seems to fly in the face of logic and reasoning, so I think you should convince us of your point of view. No point dropping things like quantum mechanics without actually telling us the hows and whys of it. It's like me telling you the sky is red because of quantum mechanics, why don't you go to the library and read up all about it, when you can see quite clearly the sky is blue.

yes feather thats exactly what i'm saying and it was exactly my point to drop few guidelines for you to be able to go further and see for yourself!

you guys know i have retired from work awhile ago right, but there are many people like you who desperately want tko know what the heck are they missing, so i decided to open my own school in september and start a year long course so i can teach these things in detail - so feather and didi you must understand why i will not even try to convince you of anything ant tell you a little story like the secret

you can be your own teacher (i was) theres loads of books and videos onlline explaining things and theres also many frauds who will try to rip you off by selling you some kind of a quick secret - worthless stuff.

|Thrax| i have read your article and it is very very true but that is not the point here, it is a sad sad reality which can be changed!!

Guys i have a link in my signature box and you can find many great books there to download for free. or search the net. theres a great outhor Amit Goswami (http://www.amitgoswami.org/) and you can start there, or you probably heard of Masaru Emoto - must read his book Messages from water...

and thank you chanty

[|Thrax|]

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there is no spoon

[feather]

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[DIDI]

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|Thrax| i have read your article and it is very very true but that is not the point here,

It is totally the point here.

[heretic]

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Ok Didi don’t be angry
I will give you a more detailed answer of what I mean. It is mainly about “mind over matter” perspective.

First, I read the list and I am not saying that all of that isn’t the every day reality for way more than half of the earth’s population, but I’d still give you the same answer, it is a choice.

Ok now hear me out. The human mind does a lot more for us than it is obvious to us. And yet it is still only a tool that we use. For example: We are born it in this world like a blank paper and receive certain amount of information that we then begin to believe is the truth and we seek evidence in our daily life and we usually get the confirmation that what we were told is true. Ok. But on the other side of the world another blank paper is born who receives completely different set of information and his reality also turns out to be the truth in his eyes – but our stories are direct opposites and still they happen to be true. Well that part of the studies of anthropology made me think but I honestly decided I will ignore it coz it made my belief system collapse. But then I dug deeper and discovered explanation to this (and way more than I expected tbh).

First important fact we are usually unaware of is that the brain has the capability to process a huge amount of data – we are aware of about 2,000 bits of information per second and our subconscious mind processes about 200 billion bits of information per second – now this huge amount of unaware stuff that is not to be overlooked!

Honestly I don’t know how to make this answer simple coz if I give you the direct answer it may sound like I am describing the color of a number 5, so I’ll give you some background of my studies.
For example Cymatics (explains and impact of a spoken word or any other sound and its influence on a physical matter), Sacred geometry (explains micro and macro world – I need to mention a few things here just to give you an tiny idea: like every planet in our solar system (and out) has the exact same position as does our molecules in or body, our blood cells, our internal organs,…, or that all of the volcanoes on earth are positioned the same way our meridians are in our upper torso – these studies were begun by Leonardo DaVinci…, every plant on earth has the same growh structure as the human cells in the fetus,…) , DNA (there used to be a term “junk dna” coz the scientists had no idea what 95% of our dna was used for, so they thought it was dead but only recently discovered it contains an enormous amount of information including every single word we have written and the vocabulary we haven’t even learned yet, it contains information about more than a 100 emotional states we are experiencing every day and are aware of just a few, and they thought that this was the basis our life is shaped of but discovered that a human mind can change the dna code and that was quite a revolutionary discovery but was never mentioned in a mass media- of course…), Quantum physics, NLP, and so on…

There is a lot of knowledge behind this statement! In the end what matters is what I think and believe or what instructions I give to my brain to initiate the frequency that will resonate the result I want. The point is if I observe the world and agree with what is being seen is the truth than this truth will reply itself until I change the point of view, so that’s why it is probable most people will not realize that they can decide not to be poor or sick or… (unless we reach a critical mass ) but this knowledge is available and is also very old and is very very interesting if you give it a chance.

Im sorry but this just sounds like a bunch of pseudo-science with no real proof. But if it works for you (or at least you think it does), good for you!

[chunky]

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Im sorry but this just sounds like a bunch of pseudo-science with no real proof. But if it works for you (or at least you think it does), good for you!

Yeah it reminded me of the George Carlin sketch when he talks about worshiping God & Joe Pesci 50/50

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[Kat]

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anyways whether you think it works or it doesn't, either way you're right!! aint that great