Gay Marriage Legal now in Canada

[Yao]

Yeah, and you get the chance to rigg that referendum hey Runningman? Sending buses all over the country to double vote and things like that...

[runningman]

I don't like the idea of the courts changing the rules that our country was founded on.. If it is going to change i wnat the people to change it.. i am very surprised at an irish-catholic man telling me that all a marriage is a piece of paper.. just because our generation forgot our "roots"(such as yourself) doesn't mean it isn't there.. i don't want to preach on you because it is a waste of time and because i am not a preacher... i believe in what i believe in and i don't care if you think its right or not because your say doesn't really matter to me at all.. your just an irishman blowing off steam because your temper gets in the way of rational thinking.. don't ever call me a "preacher" or that i'm talking "shite mate".. you didn't agree with me and you labeled me as a preacher.. this is the world Mr. Big.. there are a lot more of people that think like me then you.. but you have to take into consideration people like Dave and Yao where they are good guys and want the right s as me.. but it isn't a right to get married.. it is a belief.. a belief of the catholic church.. which then got thrown into a category of Law.. so call it an arrangement make a new word but don't call it a marriage that is what we do.. a marriage - a union of two people with the hopes of making a family.. pro creation.. it is a fact that homosexuals can't reproduce.. that can't be a marrage then now can it?? It basically comes down to making life.. homosexuals can't..

[Jenks]

Marriage is about reproducing? lmao.

m' kay.

I will marry my girlfriend, and we fucking hate kids. I sure as hell don't want to get married by some priest or in a church either. Marriage to me is about spending the rest of your life with the person you are madly in love with. Joining together to walk through life as one. I care fuck all what the church thinks. And if two men want to marry, or two women, go for it imo. Canada finally did something right. Honestly, the gay marriage thing in america and the republicans' treatment of gays is one of the biggest things i feel guilty about for voting republican.

[thesightless]

im adopting a 10 year old and sending him to a boot camp in jersey thats run by ex- drill sergents from the marines. by the time he gets to my door, he'll only know other people as sir or madam.

[Mr.Big]

Runningman ur fuckin deluded...i couldnt care what you think actually..

Ur living in the past as its clear from what ur saying... Oh yeah and by the way im sure u think ireland is really religious... Well if your 50+ maybe it is.

for the new generation its far from it, im a Roman Catholic i havent being to mass in 3years along with most other young people i know..

No one gives a toss about religion any more here, It prob has alot to do with the fact that most of the priests are kiddie fiddlers and they have given the church a really bad name..

Who caress.

[Jenks]

Re: Gay Marriage Legal now in Canada

kiddie fiddlers, lol...out of control. :?

that, and i think people are just realizing what a complete load of crap that whole religion bag is.

i firmly believe there is a higher power at work in the universe, but organized religion can go screw itself with it's righteousness and the white man in the sky schtick with 10 rules and all that nonsense. x 10.


Religion is sooo 1950.

[toasty]

I don't like the idea of the courts changing the rules that our country was founded on.. If it is going to change i wnat the people to change it.. ...

there are a lot more of people that think like me then you.. but you have to take into consideration people like Dave and Yao where they are good guys and want the right s as me.. but it isn't a right to get married.. it is a belief.. a belief of the catholic church.. which then got thrown into a category of Law.

Runningman, pardon my ignorance for not knowing this, but does Canada actually recognize specific religions or incorporate the church into governance?

Marriage may be just a "piece of paper," but it is also something that demarcates how and when you get certain benefits and rights -- that's the way it is in the US, I assume that Canada and most westernized countries follow the same general scheme. For example, married people can take advantage of one another's insurance and transfer property easily and married people have the right to certain benefits upon the death of a spouse, like the right to recover for wrongful death or get the spouse's property in the event there is no will. Married people also have a privilege of confidentiality as to certain information. It is a good place to draw the line as to who gets these benefits, because allowing anyone to claim these rights and privileges without something like a marriage certificate that changes legal status would invite abuse of the system.

Unless gay people are allowed to marry, they cannot take advantage of the legal benefits that married people enjoy. I don't think that a "civil union" really does the trick, either, because as I've mentioned many times before and even earlier in this thread, "separate but equal" doesn't work.

[davetlv]

I don't like the idea of the courts changing the rules that our country was founded on.. If it is going to change i wnat the people to change it..

Actually matey what happened is that the courts ruled that the government could legalise gay marriage without violating the constitution. The made the ruling because the provinace of Alberta and some religious groups asked them to rule that marriage was a union between man and woman.

The courts were not changing any rules that your country was founded it, what it was doing was telling government that to legalise gay marriage the constitution would not have to be changed. And as for you wanting the people to change it, well the people elected the government and they are acting as your representatives. If you don't like them vote for someone else next time. Now stop whinging!

. . . but you have to take into consideration people like Dave and Yao where they are good guys and want the right s as me...

This is where you have misunderstood me, i dont want the same rights as you i demand them.

but it isn't a right to get married..

Wrong again. It is a right. I'm assuming that Canada, unlike unfortunatley my own country, has civil marriage, you know i.e. not in a religious ceromany. If it does, marriage is then seen as a right and not as you would us to believe a belief!

a marriage - a union of two people with the hopes of making a family.. pro creation.. it is a fact that homosexuals can't reproduce.. that can't be a marrage then now can it?? It basically comes down to making life.. homosexuals can't..

So what do you call the millions of couples, who are married, who, either by choice or circumstance, can't have children. Are they anyless married to you?

Ho hum, on a seperate but connected theme . . .

It amazes me that you can spend countless hours typing away at your keyboard moaning about millions and millions of people who actively define themselves as muslims who observe their faith and yet you seem so scared of the Vatican. Bizarre. You're scared of the one organisation which has actively covered up countless cases of the abuse of minors. Minors who came into being by you prescious institution of marriage.

[runningman]

I don;t care if i'm alone on this one because this is what i think.. as for the vatican. i am not affraid of them. but more like worried of the reprocutions (business) that this will bring.. as you know the Roman Church is a huge corporation.. a great one at that.. they have there workers work for free and and all donations go to the vatican or where they see fit.. what does this mean for canada? I am not sure but it isn't good.. nothng good is going to come of this..if it is voted to not be allowed in the country would you guys accept that and not talk about it for years and years?? this isn;t the first time this has been brought up.. you might demand them but i don't think you will get them.. if you do get them then i am TOTALLY AGAINST it..

[Jenks]

.. as you know the Roman Church is a huge corporation.. a great one at that..

Haha. It's a corrupt corporation covering it's "Executives" felonies and losing it's "stockholders" in large numbers as each day passes.

Great corporation.

[Garrick]

jesus, i think its time for all of you to change your tampons.


mcdonald's anyone?

[Jenks]

Are you recommending for Jesus to change our tampons? Or Jesus to change his own tampon? or what? Jesus.

[Garrick]

let faith be your guide, my son.

[Yao]

Is Jesus a girl? Jesus...didn't know that. :wink:

[runningman]

now you guys are just being dis-respectful to my religion.. just because i said i don't agree with this topic.. for you gay people out there that are supposed to accept people for "who they are".. why am i getting burned at the stake by you guys that are sooooo opened minded.. for you to knock my religion is the utmost hipocracy that you guys stand for.. to knock on jesus or the fact there is or isn't a jesus is a closed minded person.. you can't get more closed minded then that.. not believing or telling yourself it isn't true so you can sleep at night is fine but don't call it a marriage..i accept you for who you are.. i'm not judging.. because i am not one to judge.. i will shake your hand.. i will party with you . i treat you as every one else.. but to have it called a marriage and go against the Catholic church is wrong..IMO..