you know what's astonishing?

[floridaorange]

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If Julian Assange (who has a deep seated mistrust for governments) doesn't think 9/11 was a conspiracy, maybe it's time you put down whatever it is you're smoking, and think about that for a second.

Three major indicators have in their view discredited him according to an editorial on ReOpen911. They say that Assange, who they describe as "mysterious", has never been a 9/11 conspiracy supporter and that he has even publicly criticized conspiracists. Also, he has never published anything which even remotely supports the truthers’ arguments. This is known to have rankled truther organizations.

So how is it that Julian Assange has been transformed by truthers from being a victim of plots to kill him and a fellow anti-establishment seeker into a, patsy, or a CIA agent, or an enemy of 9/11 skeptics? Conspiracywatch says the answer is obvious. They claim that some of the documents revealed by or in the possession of Wikileaks contain embarrassing content for truthers by lifting a corner of the cover protecting Hamid Gul, the ex-Head of the Pakistani Secret Services, who the truthers have always said they value as “a source.” The documents suggest that he may have secretly supported both the Taliban and AlQaida. Gul has often accused the CIA and Mossad of being behind the 9/11 attacks. So the dilemma for truthers, according to Conspiracy Watch, is how to reconcile the emerging evidence that Gal has always supported the Taliban and Al-Qaida in their war against the West with the dual fact that he has supported Truthers too, most of whom claim that 9/11 had nothing to do with the Taliban and Al Qaida, but everything to do with George Bush? And that dilemma, according to Conspiracy Watch, is partially due to the published content of Assange’s documents and that of documents to come.

[chunky]

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If Julian Assange (who has a deep seated mistrust for governments) doesn't think 9/11 was a conspiracy, maybe it's time you put down whatever it is you're smoking, and think about that for a second.

Same old argument yet again. If I'm a Christian and I think 9/11 was an inside job that doesn't mean all Christian's think 9/11 was an inside job. This go's back to Miro's insinuation that all people who believe 9/11 was an inside job must be Holocaust deniers by default because Ahmadinejad was supposedly a Holocaust Denier and also questioned 9/11. Julian Assange is not some oracle on all the truth's in the world.

If Julian Assange wants to expose some truths about 9/11I will be very interested to see them. Like I said before I would like to see that Pentagon plane footage and a lot more but your government doesn't want to show it.

[dig72]

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If Julian Assange (who has a deep seated mistrust for governments) doesn't think 9/11 was a conspiracy, maybe it's time you put down whatever it is you're smoking, and think about that for a second.

Not at all, it just proves beyond doubt that assange cannot and should not be trusted.

It's gone way past the point of differences of opinions. One must either believe everything that the government tells or not.

Can't have it both ways.

[DIDI]

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^^^ Whenever some one says "you can't have it both ways" I have a mad urge to say "why not??'

Originally Posted by floridaorange
If Julian Assange (who has a deep seated mistrust for governments) doesn't think 9/11 was a conspiracy, maybe it's time you put down whatever it is you're smoking, and think about that for a second.

All it probably means is that he doesn't have information one way or the other. Until we have definitive proof , which probably is never. All we really have are our opinions. Definitely too much faith being placed in Julian Assange's opinion though. Especially by Julian One thing I am sure of , he is just a human being, and quite possibly a deeply flawed human being . But I'd still rather have him than not!! He's a game changer !

[vinnie97]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

If Julian Assange (who has a deep seated mistrust for governments) doesn't think 9/11 was a conspiracy, maybe it's time you put down whatever it is you're smoking, and think about that for a second.

To borrow Resonator's style: psyop

[res0nat0r]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

cia

[floridaorange]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

I'm not interested so much in arguing, because I am confident you are wrong that 9/11 was "an inside job."

I do find it interesting that you think Americas elected officials would organize 9/11 and kill that many Americans.

[floridaorange]

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antique cctv

[chunky]

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antique cctv

[dig72]

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^^^ Whenever some one says "you can't have it both ways" I have a mad urge to say "why not??'

I hear you DIDI, but I think it's a fair call in this situation and topic.

All it probably means is that he doesn't have information one way or the other. Until we have definitive proof , which probably is never. All we really have are our opinions. Definitely too much faith being placed in Julian Assange's opinion though. Especially by Julian One thing I am sure of , he is just a human being, and quite possibly a deeply flawed human being . But I'd still rather have him than not!! He's a game changer !

We'll never have all the information we want and when we want it. But what we do have is history and it has proven time and time again, that the US government lies to it's citizens all the time.

We're going to find out alot more about Assange as time goes on and most of it won't be nice.

Watch as the very same MSM who have hailed Assange as some kind of messia, slowly but surely crucify him once his usefulness expires.

[dig72]

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Time will tell.

[dig72]

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I'm not interested so much in arguing, because I am confident you are wrong that 9/11 was "an inside job."

Slam-dunk, now where have I heard that before?

I do find it interesting that you think Americas elected officials would organize 9/11 and kill that many Americans.

"Elected officials", lol, please stop, lol.

Does the Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods or USS Liberty ring a bell?



"The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." --
H.L. Mencken

[vinnie97]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

I don't think it was America's public leadership inasmuch as it was the shadow govt (of which the CIA is no doubt a member) that facilitated 9/11. ;-) The CFR and trilateral commission have even said as much that their goal is a one-world govt. Rockefeller has said some pretty fucking evil things himself regarding the means justifying the end, so I wouldn't put much past these goons. The international bankers no doubt like the idea also. In fact, they have a long history of manipulation, destruction and then some: http://www.scionofzion.com/federalreserve.htm

THE TEN MEMBER BANKS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE
All owned by the Rothschilds
Rothschild Bank of London
Warburg Bank of Hamburg
Rothschild Bank of Berlin
Lehman Brothers of New York
Lazard Brothers of Paris
Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Goldman, Sachs of New York
Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

If any of these claims can be believed, it smells like someone (Rothschilds, in particular) is using Zionism and the real jews as a shadowy front for their real intent (to rule the world!!!!!!!!!11).


David de Rothschild himself coming across with a striking semblance to the Jesus portrayed of lore. Things that make you go hmm hmm hmm

[vinnie97]

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In fact, all of this sh*t coupled with DHS/big sis and their fascistic alliance with Walmart has me sh*tting myself. I half-expect to be in a FEMA camp a year from now.

[vinnie97]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

This really lays out the financial stakes that these Rothschilds have in the West: http://www.zimbio.com/David+de+Roths...s+Bank+England

Who owns the FED and controls the US government through the economy. The Rothschilds and the Bank of England. The Rothschild Group controls governments, (the USA through the privately-owned Federal Reserve System)
Its no big mystery now. The US Congress gave control of the goverment over to the (FED) private banks which means our country is not controlled by American citizens. (The Congress can take control away from the (FED) private bankers but they never will because the Congress is infested with politicians under the direct control of the FED,CFR etc. Many members of the Congress do the bidding of the CFR)

Money corrupts (especially when you hit the trillions and get the impression that your sh*t no longer stinks, that you are now a privileged member of the worldwide community, like royalty), so I have little doubt that these shitheads could pull the greatest lie ever conceived against the American public, with more to come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!