i,m out guys 5:39 AM here lol
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Highsteppa why don't you like to bring some links or evidence to back up your theories? Sarcasm and name calling never works.
Whether you agree with me or not is fine with me. But let's at least get this board back to an intellectual conversation. And by intellectual I mean a conversation where we don't just use sarcasm and name calling to put someone down and try to rally our friends to beat up the kid by the bike racks at recess. Let's DEBATE.. It is ok to disagree, I can;t stress this enoughComment
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It really is impossible to debate. There aren't any links needed for this. News reports gathered within an hour of news breaking say one thing, then get clarified or updated as time goes on and the info gets cleared up. But standard
dictates this must indicate a coverup.
Thats about all there is to the debate for this one really.Comment
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I just don't always give the government the benefit of the doubt like you Reso that's all.
With Cameras on their heads and sound being recorded (and whatever other high tech gadget the US Military has, Satellite images etc.) am I supposed to believe that the President didn't understand everything that just happened right after it happened?Comment
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Says who?? Where is the evidence? in fact any public evidence apart from silly videos?? Also there have been many people who were responsible for the deaths of thousands but that didn't warrant illegally invading a sovereign state to assassinate a citizen of a yet different state.The Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
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Its worse than that...the blessed "independent" media has not managed to find a single shred of information that isn't "a reliable source from the government"....this is in my eyes means that we know nothing. We might know what DIDN'T happen...and thats about it. They haven't bothered interviewing the neighbours...or doing any investigation of their own whatsoever. Investigative journalism is dead when it comes to international relations.his son was killed i know that much but ur right i would also like to know about what they did with the other people that were in the building @ the time and were not killed...this is something the news hasn't touched on yet... i dont know if there would of been room to take prisoners because obviously getting them out would of been a problem
The Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
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**** Extremely Graphic **** - Pictures of the Osama compound -
The photos, taken by a Pakistani security official who entered the compound after the early morning raid on Monday, show two men dressed in traditional Pakistani garb and one in a t-shirt, with blood streaming from their ears, noses and mouths.
The official, who wished to remain anonymous, sold the pictures to Reuters.
None of the men looked like bin Laden. U.S. President Barack Obama decided not to release photos of his body because it could have incited violence and used as an al Qaeda propaganda tool.
"I think that given the graphic nature of these photos, it would create some national security risk," Obama told the CBS programme "60 Minutes."
Based on the time-stamps on the pictures, the earliest one was dated May 2, 2:30 a.m., approximately an hour after the completion of the raid in which bin Laden was killed.
Other photos, taken hours later at between 5:21 a.m. and 6:43 a.m. show the outside of the trash-strewn compound and the wreckage of the helicopter the United States abandoned. The tail assembly is unusual, and could indicate some kind of previously unknown stealth capability.
Reuters is confident of the authenticity of the purchased images because details in the photos appear to show a wrecked helicopter from the assault, matching details from photos taken independently on Monday.
U.S. forces lost a helicopter in the raid due to a mechanical problem and later destroyed it.
The pictures are also taken in sequence and are all the same size in pixels, indicating they have not been tampered with. The time and date in the photos as recorded in the digital file's metadata match lighting conditions for the area as well as the time and date imprinted on the image itself.
The close-cropped pictures do not show any weapons on the dead men, but the photos are taken in medium close-up and often crop out the men's hands and arms.
One photo shows a computer cable and what looks like a child's plastic green and orange water pistol lying under the right shoulder of one of the dead men. A large pool of blood has formed under his head.
A second shows another man with a streak of blood running from his nose across his right cheek and a large band of blood across his chest.
A third man, in a T-shirt, is on his back in a large pool of blood which appears to be from a head wound.
U.S. acknowledgment on Tuesday that bin Laden was unarmed when shot dead had raised accusations Washington had violated international law. The exact circumstances of his death remained unclear and could yet fuel controversy, especially in the Muslim world.
Pakistan faced national embarrassment, a leading Islamabad newspaper said, in explaining how the world's most-wanted man was able to live for years in the military garrison town of Abbottabad, just north of the capital.
Pakistan blamed worldwide intelligence lapses for a failure to detect bin Laden, while Washington worked to establish whether its ally had sheltered the al Qaeda leader, which Islamabad vehemently denies.The Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
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Already posted in the bin Laden pics to be released thread, hoss.Comment
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You're talking about a guy who masterminded not only the planes flying into the WTC on 9/11, but also several other attacks, including the bombing of American embassies and the killing of U.S. soldiers on a naval ship and advocated fervently the killing of Westerners and any of it's allies, regardless of the status - civilian or military. He hid out for 10 years and submitted tapes of his doctrine throughout the time, repeating the same message. You really think he's just going to surrender, especially considering how the operation took about 40-45 minutes, along with the reports of a pretty extended battle using small arms?Says who?? Where is the evidence? in fact any public evidence apart from silly videos?? Also there have been many people who were responsible for the deaths of thousands but that didn't warrant illegally invading a sovereign state to assassinate a citizen of a yet different state.
As mentioned before, the official story on this is going to take time. There's still tons of data to go through and to verify and corroborate. Odds are we won't see something official for some time.Comment
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So what?? Who pronounced him guilty you? Obama....CNN who? Do you believe everything you see on TV? I don't and I would have liked to hear what he had to say. How did he manage to "masterminded... the planes flying into the WTC on 9/11" How did they bypass NORAD. Don't you think finding everything out is important??? If I had family killed I think I would like to know everything...so such a thing never happens again...it makes NO sense absolutely NO sense killing the guy for reasons we are presented with. At the end of the day...they could have even sieged the building for days...and starved him out...OR a million other possibilities that do not require shooting an unarmed man. Quite honestly this is the kind of thing that people start hating the US for...going around braking laws and killing who ever they please....not much has changed with Obama in that sense either.
And you say this based on what evidence exactly?? Where is it that irrefutable piece that would push the jury beyond reasonable doubt???You're talking about a guy who masterminded not only the planes flying into the WTC on 9/11, but also several other attacks, including the bombing of American embassies and the killing of U.S.
this is different from the ass backwards Americans who want to kill all Muslims...how?soldiers on a naval ship and advocated fervently the killing of Westerners and any of it's allies, regardless of the status - civilian or military
I am not entirely sure this illegal let alone that it warrants killing him.He hid out for 10 years and submitted tapes of his doctrine throughout the time, repeating the same message.
Eventually yes...or he is going to pick up a gun in which case SHOOTING him would be fine. Shooting a guy several times in the head is just plane execution....and I see no basis whatsoever or authority for your countryman to behave like that.ou really think he's just going to surrender, especially considering how the operation took about 40-45 minutes, along with the reports of a pretty extended battle using small arms?
In fact the whole world should be worried by the action the US has chosen to take...as your beloved president took a dump on international law...anyway:
The Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
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LolThe Idiots ARE Winning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
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