Occupy Portland

[Illuminate]

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My apologies, Let me rephrase that and remove points of absurdness:
Housing, which you cannot and will never afford is not a human right.
Driving a car is not a human right.
Having a cell phone is not a human right.
Having a TV is not a human right.
Unnecessary personal property is most definitely not a human right.

[res0nat0r]

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Who's clamoring that having a tv is a human right? lol

[floridaorange]

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[clintlove]

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I think stating that housing is not a human right is fucking absurd.

or food

^Missed that one. Unbelievable.

Before I go on my rant , I understand that a lot of the protesters are out there because of bail outs and ungodly amounts of wasted government spending. That shit should most definitely stop. However many of them are protesting, holding signs saying what they believe are “human rights”; you’ve seen my list.

Yes all people should have food and shelter, but that doesn't mean it's a human right. You know how many people live in places like Ethiopia or Somalia that are starving to death? Yet their government or fellow citizens aren't giving them food or shelter (or at least not enough of it); and the conditions they live in are fucking abysmal.

The fact that our country’s "poverty" level tends to live in free or assisted housing with air conditioning, electricity, telephones, many have luxuries like cable tv, computers, internet, designer clothing, they receive free money, free monthly credit balances for food, free health care, many drive cars and now they are receiving free cell phones in case of emergencies. The pussification of America is so bad that living like this is considered “poverty”. So very, very sad.

These people protesting on wall street who have way more than the typical poverty level in our county, who claim they can’t find work, who have been receiving free money (unemployment) from the government for years now, have the audacity to tell me, my fellow Americans, and our government what they think “human rights” are? They sit back and say our government and citizens aren’t taking care of them, that we’re not helping, that all these “fat cat” rich people need to give up more hard earned money so they can have even more and not work for it: not EARN it. Try living in Somalia or Ethiopia for a year, then tell me we aren’t being taken care of in the US, then tell me what you think our “human rights” are.

These full clothed, lazy ass people, camping out on the streets, playing on their cell phones and ipads, eating fast food and drinking bottled water, are going tell us that things like food and housing are their “human rights” when they already have these things and much, much more? Fuck that. Stop being a pussy.

I'm all for helping people in need and would never want to see someone starve or be homeless. It's typically the people that are actually starving, eating out of dumpsters and sleeping under card board boxes that don't get shit. Your typical protester would walk right by a true homeless person and not even blink. Then they hold up their little sign and complain. Worthless.

[88Mariner]

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[Shpira]

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lots of presumptions and generalisations in this thread...i'm signing out of this one...divide and conquer is all i say...and by the looks of things the Americans are quite divided.

[vinnie97]

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Subversion tends to create division:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=356769

A public relations firm closely partnered with the George Soros-funded Tides Foundation represented last week's anti-Wall Street march past millionaires' homes in New York, WND has learned.

Fenton Communications has been behind the public relations strategy of a who's who of far-left causes, organizations and activists, from Soros himself to Health Care for America Now to crafting strategies for MoveOn.org and a litany of anti-war groups.

Fenton, which works closely with Tides, first made its name representing communist dictatorships in the 1980s.

Fenton's founder is tied to President Obama and to a slew of Saul Alinsky-style community organizing groups directly involved in recent U.S. street protests, including in Wisconsin and New York.

The same groups continue to surface, constantly, again and again. This soils the efforts of those who are there with good intentions (working within the system, not to destroy it but to reform it, and not by pouring on more socialism). Soreass is happy to wreck entire economies with his currency trading schemes, but expect hell to be rained down upon you by his minions if your net worth is approaching his own.

[vinnie97]

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Like I was saying:

Not a real good way to get your movement off the ground in MAINSTREAM America. These numbnuts believe they can bring about a commie utopia when it's never been done achieved through peaceful means before. Keep this up and there will be blood in the streets, one way or another.

[floridaorange]

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^What exactly does that video have to do with anything?

[clintlove]

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^What exactly does that video have to do with anything?

That the protesters want communism...

They should move to Cuba or N. Korea and see what's it's really like. Bet they wouldn't be protesting for it in the streets of America after that.

This is the demise of our "United" States of America.

[floridaorange]

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That the protesters want communism...

Disagree


There are always a handful of nutjobs within any group of people... in this case Vinnie found a video and posted them here.

[clintlove]

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Well I meant that particular group of protesters Still a pretty large amount of people though. Kinda scary...

[Illuminate]

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America sure is heading for a great divide.Communism however, that will never happen. America is too liberated for communism to even surface. There will and always will be left wing nut cases in any situation, but the majority (the 99% hipsters) I don't believe will support communism.

[vinnie97]

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Well, the most common analogy is that of cooking a frog alive by slowly increasing the temperature as time progresses. The frog becomes desensitized and disoriented until the point of no return is reached. These 15 communism goals were drafted almost 50 years ago but an alarming number have already come to pass:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

It's difficult to make 1:1 analogies in today's evolved geopolitical climate, but it's still lingers in the back of one's mind as to the republic's destination.

[88Mariner]

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Disagree


There are always a handful of nutjobs within any group of people... in this case Vinnie found a video and posted them here.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/occupy-wall-street-black-population_n_998722.html

well, i'm pretty sure they don't want black people there. i think we can agree on that, right?